Situation in Croatia

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

كتب بواسطة Skanderbeg, 29.08.2015 at 05:06

Why starting to calculate Albanian population on Kosovo since 1961? Why not calculate from WW1 or WW2, when there was 150,000 - 300,000 Albanians, minority in Serbian part of Yugoslavia. In WW2 Albanians invade Yugoslavia and start colonizing Kosovo like Arabs Israel. They kill one half of serbs and ethnic cleanse other half (sound familiar?). After the war, Yugoslavia becaome communist and croatian communists (Vladimir Bakarich, Tito, Franyo Tudzhman, Milka Planints) banned Serbs to go back to their homes on Kosovo, while they opened borders with Albania so they can settle more on Kosovo. 45 years later there are 2 million Albanians on Kosovo and with the help of USA, against all laws and rules they secede from Serbia.

Russia didnt cleanse Tatars when Crimea became Russian in 1784, Russians and Tatars always lived peacefully there, Communists in USSR deported Tatars from Crimea, not Russia. They returned after USSR and there are 300,000 Tatars on Crimea and 1,200,000 Russians. They didnt start the war with Ukraine, they had democratic civilized referendum and joined Russia. Note that referendum happened when Ukraine didnt had government, nazis made coup/putsch and legally elected ukrainian government was overthrown.

Im beating your lies with international law boy. GGNORE


p.s.
there you go thats your nazi proof that egocentric tribal societies like Albania is a shithole even after communism built them roads, hospitals, schools and concrete houses (before they had made from wood and mud). In the other hand Russia is multicultural and can go into space, have fifth generation jet fighters, nuclear submarines and nuclear missiles.

Yes, I was waiting for this, I was waiting you to show how poor your knowledge is and how strong your lying skills are. At least you could check several things about Crimea or Russia that you are fapping on.

I wont comment on your theory how USA helped Albanians and Croatians to realize their plan of ethnically cleaning Kosovo from Serbs since WW2 ended, I will just laugh on it. LMAO

Whatsmore, how is it possible that you, as pro-russian orientated, dont know the main things about Crimea and Tatar-Russian relationship.
- Russians were minority in Crimea until WW2 ended. After ending, they started massively coming and inhabiting Crimea. Since then they are in constant percentage of 55-60% of whole population on Crimea.
- Tatar-Russian relationship is not that perfect as you are saying. Problem for Tatars is that they are the only muslim minority on Crimea (they are the only minority at all, Russians-Ukrainians are making the most of Crimean population, than Tatars with percentage of 15-20% and than all other who are together making less than 1%)
Every their try for better would be killed by Russian majority, so they just adapted on minority life like it is and there are not big troubles with Tatars there, neither with Russians, neither with Ukrainians.
What is the most interesting, you are saying how Tatars were in great relations with Russians and the final effect of that 'great relationship' was deportation of Tatars by Russian communists. Strong contradiction.
I will just say one sentence which is saying and explaining all the things there:
- Tatars came back on Crimea after Ukraine finally became free!

So if your fake facts are making international law, thanks God I am against that law.

p.s.
I will just copy your sentence in post scriptum:
Tito: 'there you go thats your nazi proof that egocentric tribal societies like Albania is a shithole even after communism built them roads, hospitals, schools and concrete houses (before they had made from wood and mud)'

Communism built them roads, hospitals, schools and concrete houses?
LMAO
After Albania became communist country with Enver Hodžić on their leadership, they had several tryings to set up country and society same as Chineese communsim was set up. Communsim as communism, couldnt make things better, whatsmore, it even produced only a giant mess in all areas of life.
It all led Albanian economy to the total disaster. Communism threw Albania on the bottom.
After communism had failed and democracy came jn Albania, it finally started to repair part by part and since then their economy system is rising every year more and more.

كتب بواسطة Kromn, 29.08.2015 at 07:16

كتب بواسطة Goblin, 29.08.2015 at 07:08

Serbs created their own enemies...

da,kad bi se sprdali.

See you quoted me 10 times and now i gota enemy list you

http://news-bar.rtl.hr/vijesti/zanimljivosti/veliko-otkrie-znanstvenika-mojsije-razbio-ploche-s-deset-zapovijedi-jer-su

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 08:03

What is the most interesting, you are saying how Tatars were in great relations with Russians and the final effect of that 'great relationship' was deportation of Tatars by Russian communists. Strong contradiction.

Yes, use nazi propaganda to blame Russia for communism.

You nazis are failing everytime, whether in real life or on the internet. How you are not bored of being loser all the time?

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 08:03

I will just say one sentence which is saying and explaining all the things there:
- Tatars came back on Crimea after Ukraine finally became free!

Ukraine was actually free in Russian Empire and generally in USSR as well. Before it was occupied by Tatars-Turks and Polish Kingdom and for short time by Nazi Germany during WWII.

Today Ukraine is again occupied by nazis and Western colonizators who are destroying Ukraine to create front with Russia.

Ukrainians/Russians were never more free and prosperous in Russia as economy and art can prove

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 08:03

After communism had failed and democracy came jn Albania, it finally started to repair part by part and since then their economy system is rising every year more and more.

Yes, today it is so good in Albania that from 10 million Albanians only 20% live in Albania while others left to settle other countries

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...you guys are such nationalists!!!

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...you guys are such imperialists!!!

كتب بواسطة Skanderbeg, 29.08.2015 at 11:47

Yes, use nazi propaganda to blame Russia for communism.
You nazis are failing everytime, whether in real life or on the internet. How you are not bored of being loser all the time?

Ukraine was actually free in Russian Empire and generally in USSR as well. Before it was occupied by Tatars-Turks and Polish Kingdom and for short time by Nazi Germany during WWII.

Today Ukraine is again occupied by nazis and Western colonizators who are destroying Ukraine to create front with Russia.

Ukrainians/Russians were never more free and prosperous in Russia as economy and art can prove

Yes, today it is so good in Albania that from 10 million Albanians only 20% live in Albania while others left to settle other countries

I dont know why are you hopping to nazis everytime you dont have a single argument. Nobody mentioned nazis, we were talking about Russian communists who deported Tatars from Crimea, right? (You mentioned that first, but there were some mistakes which I had to correct)
I am not nazi and neither I am failing, but opposite. I am so powerful in comparison to your brain who is detecting only 2 things on this world - NAZIS AND COMMUNISTS.

Whatsmore, take a deeper look on whole Russian Federation and its economy. Not only Moscow and St.Peterbourgh are Russia and dont forget all parts of your 'motherland' or better say poor fappland.

Ukraine wasnt feee in Russian Empire and today it is not occupied by nazis. It is occupied by Russian terrorists.

And last one again about Albania,
you dont know a single thing about this case. You just speak your non-sense propaganda by running from a theme, but you would stop immideatly if you know that biggest leaving and setteling another countries by Albanians was during communist Albania which caused a disaster crash of Albanian economical system.
Consequences of communist Albania are obvious even today. Communism is a system doomed to failure, especially when you set wrong people like it was in Albanian case.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 13:26

I dont know why are you hopping to nazis everytime you dont have a single argument. Nobody mentioned nazis,

Its not everytime, but most things in Western foreign policy are made by neo-nazis or just politicians taught by nazis which came to USA and UK after WWII. You see, Nazis hated more Communists than they hated Capitalists, because it happened that Communism was developed in USSR which had the largest resource reserves that Nazis needed for World War. When Nazis lost by Communists in WWII, many of their high ranking leaders and officials moved to USA and UK because USA had plan to start WWIII with Communists for global domination, they needed Nazis to teach them how to fight USSR since they gathered experience on the Eastern Front in WWII.
WWIII didnt happened because largest communist state - USSR, didnt start it and didnt reply to US provocations. It was only Cold War.
When USSR collapsed, there was no opponent to stand on Americas way to global hegemony, and America is making sure Russia dont rise. Hence, they use nazi propaganda and policies to counter Russia. Their goal is to demonize Russia and turn the World against it, so they can destroy it and exploit the resources. Usual arguments to do this is 'Russians are communists', 'Russian invasion of Europe', 'Russian threat', 'Russian oppression', 'totalitarian Russia', 'Putin evil', 'Khatyn massacre', 'Soviet deportations', 'Gulags'.

West still dont provide proof for their claims against Russia, yet they continue to repeat accusations like parrots, which make them lose honor and credibility in International Community. Same as you lose credibility when posting lies on atwar forum.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 13:26

we were talking about Russian communists who deported Tatars from Crimea, right? (You mentioned that first, but there were some mistakes which I had to correct)
I am not nazi and neither I am failing, but opposite. I am so powerful in comparison to your brain who is detecting only 2 things on this world - NAZIS AND COMMUNISTS.

See, you are repeating yourself again although i proved your argument is invalid. You are a troll.

You didnt provide proof that it was Russian communists who deported Tatars. You single-out one ethnic group in the country with 250 ethnic groups and blame it for politics of the whole state. Thats nazi teaching.

Apparently, the Northern Hemisphere in the World turns around Nazis and Communists. Nazis are real, but they use Communists as excuse so they can invade Russia like they did 70 years ago. West wont stop using any means necessary until they win or lose in the war against Russia.

Note how Russia is democratic capitalist country today while America claim it was hostile to USSR which was communist. Now Russia is not communist but America is considering Russia - democratic capitalist country, an enemy. It is so obvious that it doesnt matter what form or ideology exist in North Asia, America will be against it.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 13:26

Whatsmore, take a deeper look on whole Russian Federation and its economy. Not only Moscow and St.Peterbourgh are Russia and dont forget all parts of your 'motherland' or better say poor fappland.

Thats true, Moscow and Petersburg are developed cities, because foreigners invest heavily there. Those cities are very close to Europe, thats why. It happens to every developing country, America had eastern coast developed while interior was underdeveloped, England had south developed, France and Italy had north developed, Brazil have coastline developed. It takes time to develop all regions, especially if they are faraway ones.

Beside, it isnt Russian fault for poor economy, Russia reformed just recently after 20 years, while it was 80 years in USSR. Russia started developing for 20 years only. Still, Russian economy is performing better than American or European on yearly basis. It can be harmed only by external attacks, as it was proven in 2014 ruble crisis.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 13:26

Ukraine wasnt feee in Russian Empire and today it is not occupied by nazis. It is occupied by Russian terrorists.

Poroshenko and Yarosh are Ukrainians, you should know that, dont be ignorant whole your life. They occupied Ukraine with their nazi paramilitaries Right Sector, Azov Batallion, Ukrainian Insurgent Army and National Militia. They appointed foreigners in their Government like Georgians and Americans and they recieve funds from IMF and the West. 1,5 million Ukrainians already left Ukraine due to such high standard of living there. 1 million moved to Russia, the alleged invader of Ukraine and applied for asylum. Ukrainian nazis destroyed Ukrainian economy and made 250% inflation. Hryvnia is the worst performing currency on the market. Ukrainian economy shrank for 17% and it is still falling 9% a year. Unemployement is 2 million and rising.

Ukrainian people will soon lynch nazis on the streets, no one will escape their desperation and anger. They will have their revenge and you will see anti-western sentiment hitting 90%

كتب بواسطة Croat, 29.08.2015 at 13:26

And last one again about Albania,
you dont know a single thing about this case. You just speak your non-sense propaganda by running from a theme, but you would stop immideatly if you know that biggest leaving and setteling another countries by Albanians was during communist Albania which caused a disaster crash of Albanian economical system.
Consequences of communist Albania are obvious even today. Communism is a system doomed to failure, especially when you set wrong people like it was in Albanian case.

Oh i know more than you, you shouldnt question that. Communism in Albania didnt support business but it did create infrastructure. It moved Albania from 17th century to 20th. They created roads, bridges, tunnels, airports, sewers, hospitals, schools, electricity, everything that modern country need, nothing that Albania had before. They had dirt roads, horse carriages and candle lights. Albanians tortured their women and communism emancipated them, giving them rights and freedom. Plus open border with Yugoslavia made them keep low unemployment.

Same happened to Soviet Central Asia, on referendum to preserve USSR 1990, Soviet Asian Republics voted 99% to keep USSR. Because communism modernized their societies.

Yet again, what would you know about that, you are blinded by propaganda and driven by hate. You are just brainwashed drone controled from distance by others

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

كتب بواسطة Skanderbeg, 28.08.2015 at 12:06

Serbia was invaded by America and Europe so they can grab as much territory they can to create Great Albania, which is ally of NATO. America need an ally on the Balkan to counter Russian ally Serbia.

That war was illegal without approve from the UN and Finnish HRW reported that Albanians were attacking Serbs, not vice-versa. In that war, Americans provoked China by bombing Chinese embassy, 3 Chinese nationals were killed and Chinese realized then that America is no friend, and they were aware that after Russia, it is China's turn to be attacked by the West. Thats why they made such a strong alliance with Russia.

Kosovo was taken from Serbia and gave to Albanian terrorist group which is on the list of most dangerous terrorists in UN and CIA, but US government ignored that so they can create counterweight to Serbia.

American first wave of attack, the bombing was success in only 3 days, all targets destroyed (military bases and infrastructure), but they continued to bomb civilian bridges, roads, highways, factories, hospitals and schools to push Serbia back to stone age so they can be weak and unable to harm US ally, Albania. America should be trialed in Strasbourg for war crimes, but as strong as they are, they just opened illegal, not approved court in Hague and gave high wages to judges to prolong trials to Serbian generals, which are arrested to damage Serbian Army chain of command.

Lets not forget that Croatia was funding Albanian terrorist group on Kosovo during the invasion. They sent weapon they recieved 7 years earlier from Germany and America to start Yugoslav Civil War. That is another box checked in the list of wars where Croatia was on the bad side of history beside Napoleon Wars, World War I and World War II.

Well, this comment would be tragi-comic if this was written by someone else, but since it was written by you - let it be just comic.

For first, you are not understanding causality.
America invided Federal Republic Yugoslavia, not Serbia. (I am saying this purposely, just because you are so biased when you speak that Yugoslav army was not Serbian army in the time from 1991. - 1995. , even Serbians were controlling it before Croatian Independence War, but they took 100% control when Croatia was recognized. Only name stayed 'Yugoslavian', all other was 'Serbian')

Really saddens me to see you spouting lies and propaganda like a nationalist zealot, i expected more from you Croat... You sound worst than Tito. You have no right to judge the above comment, as it was for the most part, legit. The cause of Nato's involvement was clear to anyone with half a brain. It was simply because Yugoslavia was a threat and was resisting Western social, political and economical reforms and influence. Moreso, Serbia was an ally of Russia and Albania ally of U.S. 1+1 = 3?

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

Kosovo which is mostly settled by Albanians since ever.

Try not to create your own version of history. Serbs created their Kingdom in 7th century and ruled until the 15th, Kosovo included in their empire. Then the ottoman monkeys came and STOLE THE LAND, just like they stole from all of us. They put Albanians there, they brought Islam on our lands, balkans were christian and before, pagan. Serb churches are still there, left from that time. Then Serbs liberated their land again in 1912, made it their province and then became part of Yugoslavia.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

- Serbians wanted Kosovo to stay as part of Serbia, explanations not needed.

explanations not needed because it was THEIR LAND. Their land historically, their province by law.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

There were several requests sent to Serbia for solving peacefully the problem about Kosovo.
Serbians as Serbians, didnt want to let Kosovo free just because of their well known phrase: 'Kosovo was always part of Serbia and will stay'

You can hate Serbs all you want, i dont give a fuck. But you cant change history. Its their land, "our land". Because when it comes to Balkans and Ottomans theres no republics and no borders. Theres only THEY and US. You Croatians wanna pick the muslim side aka Turkalbans and Turkbosniaks? The corraboratoring executioners of the ottomans? The obstacle of Europeanization and modernization of our Balkan countriesThe forefront of the Turkish regular and particularly irregular troops who committed numerous atrocities in battles against the Christian rebels suffering under Allahs boot? The islamist monkeys people who left their mountains under ottoman rule and settled lands all around Albania, raping, robbing, killing and forcefully islamising our ancestors? You will find all the rest of us against you then, not only the Serbs. End of the day, Albanians in Kosovo were patriachal-oriental chauvinistic, racist, uneducated, violent, theocratic Islamists, of the worst kind, left behind from the ottoman empire and in my opinion should all have been given the option of immediate evacuation or face execution, when Serbs liberated Kosovo. Serbs were too kind.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

Let me write population of Kosovo since 1960s - 1990s
Kosovo population (ratio Albanians - Serbians)

1961.
Total population: 963 959
Albanians: 646 604 (67,1%)
Serbians: 227 016 (23,5%)

1971.
Total population: 1 243 093
Albanians: 916 168 (73,7%)
Serbians: 228 264 (18,4%)

1981.
Total population: 1 584 440
Albanians: 1 226 736 (77,4%)
Serbians: 209 798 (13,2%)

1991.
Total population: 1 956 196
Albanians: 1 596 072 (81,6%)
Serbians: 194 190 (9,9%)

2011.
Total population: 1.739.825
Albanians: 92,93 %
Serbians: between 2-3 %

Numbers are showing that the birth rate of Albanians in Kosovo is in constant growth and opposite story is with Serbians on Kosovo.

That proves nothing. No argument here. There are almost a million Albanians in Northern Greece now, more than Greeks in some parts, because they settled illegally and each dropped 10 kids. Should we give them Northern Greece too? Nice logic.

Moreso, as i said Kosovo was occupied by the Ottomans and they killed, rape, tortured and drove away the Christian population. Muslims like Albanians and Bosniaks went on to settle any area they wanted, protected by the ottomans and enjoyed special privileges and had the chance to thrive, while Christians were considered 2nd place citizens at best.

Moreso, even after the ottoman empire's effect on kosovo, Tito also fucked up, letting and encouraging Albanians to migrate again to Kosovo and multiply. Again.

Moreso, it is widely known Muslims breed like monkeys and you can easily confirm it yourself by observing statistics of fertility rates in Muslim countries and regions and compare them to Christian. A nice example is that while the whole Balkans were suffering from low birth rates, Kosovo Albanians enjoyed a 7.8 fertility rate in 1950 (7.8 for fucking fuck shake) a number you encounter only in aids ridden countries of Africa. Ridiculous. Even in 1990 they still had 3,3 and while population in 2006 was 2 million, now its 2,5 million. We are talking about the worst SHITHOLE in all of Balkans, Europes biggest shame, a destroyed, poor country, worst in every single thing, run by terrorists and gangsters and they still add to their population, instead of the opposite!! Its is unreal. I rest my case.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

I beg you now, dont start your propaganda how there was Albanian plan from 1960s for gradual extermination of Serbs in Kosovo, in those lies neither children would believe.

No agenda, just a purpose. By observing and analyzing muslim ottoman empire as it acted througout the years, you can safely make the claim it acts as a virus. Multiplying and spreading. Same as Albanians, the ottoman leftovers, did with Kosovo and a all neighbouring countries like Macedonia and Greece.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

All world saw the injustice of Albanians on Kosovo, so, logically, they tried to help. You will be shocked how many countries stayed on Albanian side, but not a single one on Serbian side, neither they 'friend' Russia.

Bullshit. BULLSHIT. Injustice my ass. Fist of all, since when the "world" gives a flying fuck about "injustice". I will answer that. When its in their best interest. If so many countries really supported Albania then why isnt Kosovo recognised yet? Greece also, helped Serbia in those times and as you can see, still pays the price of defying the Americans.

كتب بواسطة Croat, 28.08.2015 at 17:32

NATO warned Serbia to stop with pressure on Albanians on Kosovo several times. They sent many sanctions to Serbia, but again, Serbians as Serbians, didnt want to stop.
When the things escalated, NATO decided to solve that in a well known way, by bombing Serbia... Bad thing they later bombed even some civil targets. RIP for every Serbian civil that died there, but things are so obvious.

Serbia payed for their permanent arrogance, oppression and social abuse of Albanians on Kosovo. Thats all.

And who is Nato to warn anyone about handling their business inside their own borders? Also an ultimatum is not a warning, nor a sanction , nor an offer for negotiations and peace. Nato declined the latter. And yet you actually support NATO illegal, illegitimate and inhumane bombing? The attack was illegal by article 2 section 4, article 53 and article 103 of UN chapters. Even NATO's North Atlantic Treaty of 1949 was violated. Also violated Helsinki Final Act of 1975 and the 1980 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. Is this illegal enough for you?

Natos justifications and the so called 'ethnic cleansing" hoax, have been proven to be a set of exagerations of numbers, fabrications, staged photos, lies and media propaganda and they have been debunked ever since . The international community has accepted this fact and tons of people and witnesses have spoken out, including members of the medical community, western journalists and politicians and even Nato officials. Do your research. Even the British parliament made an official statement, critisizing their involvement in the illegal attack.

In the end, this attack based on "a big lie" cost the lives of more than 2000 civilians, 100 kids, 300 schools destroyed, 20 hospitals, 40000 homes destroyed and 90 historical monument ruined. All for this shithole



the representation of fucking hell on earth, ruled by the worst ruthless murderers and rapists of the KLA who rape torture, sell drugs and human organs and ethnically cleansed not only Serbs but Jews, Roma and Turks.





tldr;

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كتب بواسطة Khal.eesi, 29.08.2015 at 16:39

GO KHALLY GO

Khalesi is Achilles of Atwar, just unleash him in flamewar debate.

Though i feel like Agamemnon, Achilles hate me, but support my cause.