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29.01.2017 - 12:51
Default world map, i think it would make games more interesting, like this we need like 10t to get from JPN to California and other way around, i think modern ships and planes r faster from that, i think 5 t would be more realistic and make games more interesting, or option on map, faster and slower games
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29.01.2017 - 13:00
5 range whould make things to op...i dont see a problem with the world map exept the opines of ds helies
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29.01.2017 - 13:24
Problem is u need half hour or more to start over pacific war
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30.01.2017 - 02:20
How long range do you want SM to be?
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30.01.2017 - 06:51
كتب بواسطة LukeTan, 30.01.2017 at 02:20

How long range do you want SM to be?

Japan to California in one turn xD
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30.01.2017 - 15:15
 brianwl (مشرف)
كتب بواسطة MURAD IV, 29.01.2017 at 12:51

Default world map, i think it would make games more interesting, like this we need like 10t to get from JPN to California and other way around, i think modern ships and planes r faster from that, i think 5 t would be more realistic and make games more interesting, or option on map, faster and slower games


K, maybe not on default map... but mod a map and remove pacific ocean.
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30.01.2017 - 15:20
كتب بواسطة Darth., 30.01.2017 at 06:51

كتب بواسطة LukeTan, 30.01.2017 at 02:20

How long range do you want SM to be?

Japan to California in one turn xD

in 7 or 6 t would be realistic
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31.01.2017 - 00:26
كتب بواسطة MURAD IV, 30.01.2017 at 15:20

كتب بواسطة Darth., 30.01.2017 at 06:51

كتب بواسطة LukeTan, 30.01.2017 at 02:20

How long range do you want SM to be?

Japan to California in one turn xD

in 7 or 6 t would be realistic

SM would be better than PD due to the extremely high range.
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31.01.2017 - 00:30
كتب بواسطة LukeTan, 31.01.2017 at 00:26

كتب بواسطة MURAD IV, 30.01.2017 at 15:20

كتب بواسطة Darth., 30.01.2017 at 06:51

كتب بواسطة LukeTan, 30.01.2017 at 02:20

How long range do you want SM to be?

Japan to California in one turn xD

in 7 or 6 t would be realistic

SM would be better than PD due to the extremely high range.

This will make all the short range strategies like IF become obsolete in favour of SM.
GC will also become obsolete due to SM being a better high cost strategy.
NC will also become obsolete unless in low funds because SM just offers +5 extra range for a little extra cost (relative to that +5 range)
Blitzkrieg is already obsolete, now it doesn't even have a little more range than SM.
I doubt HW will be usable due to the low defence of tanks (ie all of the stacks have to be defended with infantry due to the fact that SM bombers can attack everywhere.
MoS might be usable in a world game but SM will simply expand faster and can cross the ocean to america in a shorter time.

Never implement this idea, or only Imp and SM will ever be used from now on
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31.01.2017 - 00:32
Yeah lets just give 30 range to tanks while we're at it
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31.01.2017 - 07:55
Ok lets say it got aded

Regular duel (sk) ukr vs turk (imp)...regular expansion...regular game
but then ukraine caps turkey because air trans have 7 + range now (2+ fro sk 5+ fro upgrade) that shit will ruin comepetative and scnerios just so u can have pacific war :-)
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31.01.2017 - 10:24
كتب بواسطة Guest, 31.01.2017 at 00:32

Yeah lets just give 30 range to tanks while we're at it

Ze Russian Tank Red Army will conquer all of ze world! Urraaaa!!
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31.01.2017 - 14:42
كتب بواسطة Brsjak, 31.01.2017 at 07:55

Ok lets say it got aded

Regular duel (sk) ukr vs turk (imp)...regular expansion...regular game
but then ukraine caps turkey because air trans have 7 + range now (2+ fro sk 5+ fro upgrade) that shit will ruin comepetative and scnerios just so u can have pacific war :-)

its just for worlds map, lesser maps lesser range
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02.02.2017 - 16:05
كتب بواسطة Darth., 31.01.2017 at 10:24

كتب بواسطة Guest, 31.01.2017 at 00:32

Yeah lets just give 30 range to tanks while we're at it

Ze Russian Tank Red Army will conquer all of ze world! Urraaaa!!

my friend made a swastika (in real life) with tiles then destroyed it yelling here come the russians...if they add it i doubt he'll finish building it at all
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02.02.2017 - 18:55
I have an itch in my ass... Luke I need your small hands please help a friend out?
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03.02.2017 - 09:57
Support
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03.02.2017 - 10:16
Alrighty then,
What you seem to be NOT realizing is that in order to decrease the turn time it takes to cross the pacific is that you would need to increase the range of said units. Which in turn would make them far more powerful within any given continent or body of water on the world map, not just the pacific ocean. Thus you would in turn be throwing off the balance of unit movement between all units. Right now everything is fairly balanced, *ahem*, as balanced as they can be. If you change the range for said units just so one can cross an ocean as huge as the pacific in a shorter amount of turns, than you subsequently throw all unit movement range between all units into complete unbalance. The truly proper way to deal with this is called STRATEGY. Meaning players who are in a position to actually try and cross the pacific need to be playing a long game. Which translates to, you need to be planning your moves far in advance and not wait for the right moment to strike but anticipate or plan for the right moment. You already know it takes 10 turns to cross the pacific, then you need to be planning your moves 10 turns ahead, so that your troops are in position when you need them to be. This is what is called strategy. You cannot be reactive, you must be proactive. You plot, you plan and you execute. You don't wait for things to happen, you make them happen.
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P.S. If we had a usable mapmaker up and running then you could create this little fantasy you have but let's stay in reality and realize that truly the default map does not, should not ever, and will not ever, need to be changed just because players feel it's unfair.
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03.02.2017 - 10:37
كتب بواسطة Warmonger Dak, 03.02.2017 at 10:16

Alrighty then,
What you seem to be NOT realizing is that in order to decrease the turn time it takes to cross the pacific is that you would need to increase the range of said units. Which in turn would make them far more powerful within any given continent or body of water on the world map, not just the pacific ocean. Thus you would in turn be throwing off the balance of unit movement between all units. Right now everything is fairly balanced, *ahem*, as balanced as they can be. If you change the range for said units just so one can cross an ocean as huge as the pacific in a shorter amount of turns, than you subsequently throw all unit movement range between all units into complete unbalance. The truly proper way to deal with this is called STRATEGY. Meaning players who are in a position to actually try and cross the pacific need to be playing a long game. Which translates to, you need to be planning your moves far in advance and not wait for the right moment to strike but anticipate or plan for the right moment. You already know it takes 10 turns to cross the pacific, then you need to be planning your moves 10 turns ahead, so that your troops are in position when you need them to be. This is what is called strategy. You cannot be reactive, you must be proactive. You plot, you plan and you execute. You don't wait for things to happen, you make them happen.
"UNSUPPORT!"



P.S. If we had a usable mapmaker up and running then you could create this little fantasy you have but let's stay in reality and realize that truly the default map does not, should not ever, and will not ever, need to be changed just because players feel it's unfair.

blitz should been fast tactic but not have much bigger range then others, i see yours point, but we need some kind of faster units as i see
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04.02.2017 - 08:45
Honestly I am an advocate for never changing the default, IMO that is what the map maker is truly for, players creating their own concepts of what they think should be. So if you feel that we need faster units, than by all means, clone the world map and tweak it how you feel it should be. Then you can have your faster units and cross the pacific in less turns, but c'mon man, quit trying to change the status quo just because you don't like it. The really sad part is, what hinders you from creating your dreamworld is the fact that we still don't have a working map maker in HTML 5. So either you have some patience or just give this idea up. But honestly there are maps already created, world map clones, that have really tweaked units, you should check them out. Ratwar has made some pretty cool ones IMO. But I still stand on the UNSUPPORT for altering the existing default map just because you feel we need faster units.
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04.02.2017 - 16:01
كتب بواسطة Warmonger Dak, 04.02.2017 at 08:45

Honestly I am an advocate for never changing the default, IMO that is what the map maker is truly for, players creating their own concepts of what they think should be. So if you feel that we need faster units, than by all means, clone the world map and tweak it how you feel it should be. Then you can have your faster units and cross the pacific in less turns, but c'mon man, quit trying to change the status quo just because you don't like it. The really sad part is, what hinders you from creating your dreamworld is the fact that we still don't have a working map maker in HTML 5. So either you have some patience or just give this idea up. But honestly there are maps already created, world map clones, that have really tweaked units, you should check them out. Ratwar has made some pretty cool ones IMO. But I still stand on the UNSUPPORT for altering the existing default map just because you feel we need faster units.

i play all but still think world game is to slow, most official games we play on that map so....
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09.02.2017 - 05:09
This would destroy competitive play no support. I'd be in Portugal to rnw in a turn. Then from rnw to ural, ural to far east then to taiwan. Lol
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09.02.2017 - 12:53
كتب بواسطة Helly, 09.02.2017 at 05:09

This would destroy competitive play no support. I'd be in Portugal to rnw in a turn. Then from rnw to ural, ural to far east then to taiwan. Lol

ggg world with colonials r faster to play then modern time map, isnt that little ilogical
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09.02.2017 - 13:18
كتب بواسطة MURAD IV, 09.02.2017 at 12:53

كتب بواسطة Helly, 09.02.2017 at 05:09

This would destroy competitive play no support. I'd be in Portugal to rnw in a turn. Then from rnw to ural, ural to far east then to taiwan. Lol

ggg world with colonials r faster to play then modern time map, isnt that little ilogical

But ggg is a custom map the speed is on purpose. Just like the tempo of world map is on pupose.
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09.02.2017 - 14:28
Yea but i think modern world is to slow
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