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Next click the button 5 buttons in from the right called insert link (url) two [url] boxes like that will appear. Then just copy and paste the link in between the two boxes and it will "activate" the link
Again western evilness come to surface. Pro-independence movement talked about Scotland's own path, interesting future, unique way of a nation-state. While anti-indendence propaganda used lies, threats, pressure and lies to discourage scots and force them vote 'no'.
There will be a day when people wont tolerate evil west anymore, lies and threats will be ignored and freedom will be achieved.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
Again western evilness come to surface. Pro-independence movement talked about Scotland's own path, interesting future, unique way of a nation-state. While anti-indendence propaganda used lies, threats, pressure and lies to discourage scots and force them vote 'no'.
There will be a day when people wont tolerate evil west anymore, lies and threats will be ignored and freedom will be achieved.
Well well well, look what he have here. Rigged referendum, nice. Another proof of free democratic societies of the 'West'.
'West' reminds me more and more of '1984'. Orwell da prophet!
And there goes symbolism: 'west', sunset, sun goes down, while on the East sun raises.
One point that is entirely clear and factual is that ~94%(by the way, 52+58=/=100) of the eligible voters in Scotland voted. This shows it wasn't "western democracies using propaganda" as it was that the Scottish made their own informed decisions on their future and came to the conclusion by themselves. Yes, in some instances, votes were rigged and messed up, however, due to the large difference in "yes" and "no" voters, it doesn't seem like it would make the bigger difference of making an independent Scotland.
Scotland was given the chance to vote and that's really what matters. There are many countries who have the capabilities to be a sovereign country and haven't had the chance to get a referendum in the world, so Scotland was lucky in comparison. Even with that chance, they still chose BY THEMSELVES(each area that voted no had an average of 84.5% of the voters voting 'no'; a huge amount) that they wanted to remain with the union, most likely due to an uncertain future many of the voters had in mind.
Likewise, you can't say that the government used propaganda or ways to block information about things that could benefit Scotland and that's why there were so many "no" votes. That argument would look only faintly accurate if there were many more "no" voters than there actually were, but you can't hide economics, geopolitics, etc. from 45% of the eligible voters without either word getting out or voters finding various other forms to inform the citizens who were going to vote "no" just what they were giving up.
In all, it was a fair, almost completely accurate vote, and shouldn't be criticized above the arguments of why there were more "no" votes over "yes" votes.
Scotland voted and wished to remain in UK. get over it. Everyone knows regardless of the outcome, you would try to troll the "Evil West". If scotland really wanted to be independant than go call Putin to save those helpless people D;
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
One point that is entirely clear and factual is that ~94%(by the way, 52+58=/=100) of the eligible voters in Scotland voted. This shows it wasn't "western democracies using propaganda" as it was that the Scottish made their own informed decisions on their future and came to the conclusion by themselves. Yes, in some instances, votes were rigged and messed up, however, due to the large difference in "yes" and "no" voters, it doesn't seem like it would make the bigger difference of making an independent Scotland.
Scotland was given the chance to vote and that's really what matters. There are many countries who have the capabilities to be a sovereign country and haven't had the chance to get a referendum in the world, so Scotland was lucky in comparison. Even with that chance, they still chose BY THEMSELVES(each area that voted no had an average of 84.5% of the voters voting 'no'; a huge amount) that they wanted to remain with the union, most likely due to an uncertain future many of the voters had in mind.
Likewise, you can't say that the government used propaganda or ways to block information about things that could benefit Scotland and that's why there were so many "no" votes. That argument would look only faintly accurate if there were many more "no" voters than there actually were, but you can't hide economics, geopolitics, etc. from 45% of the eligible voters without either word getting out or voters finding various other forms to inform the citizens who were going to vote "no" just what they were giving up.
In all, it was a fair, almost completely accurate vote, and shouldn't be criticized above the arguments of why there were more "no" votes over "yes" votes.
First they publish ''52'' and ''58'' percentage, first false information.
Then we see on cameras that people working on ballots cheat, second fraud.
And we know before referendum, anti-independence movements made pressure, lies and propaganda on scottish people to make them scared and stay in union. Third crime.
No one said it is UK government who interfered with the referendum, of course they dont want dirty hands in crime. Non-government organisations did that, payed(bribed) by the government. We have information by local scots that Scotland was crawled by americans who didnt tell for whom they work, they just spammed propaganda in local community halls, gatherings, meetings, on local tv's and lied how Scotland will suffer like Kenya if they leave the union.
Even if it was false statistics(unfortunately is common when the crew of the news agency is biased or too illiterate), it still showed the main idea people were looking for: who won?
Next, even though we see cameras, this is photographic evidence of one person doing that. Unless you have more evidence to show this happened continually(she continued to swap them for yes, causing many votes to be uncounted rather than just the few she did manage to get by with) and with other people, you cannot generalize the entire referendum's count on one person who would still have insignificant counts for "yes" even if were re-tallied, since the scores for "yes" were by far much lower than "no".
If I remember correctly, this is the same situation that happened in Crimea, where Russian troops stayed(with militarized weaponry not excluding tanks) before, during, and after the vote. The vote wasn't even allowed by the Ukranian government, whereas with the UK government, it was legally passed. With that, I remember you saying that you supported the crimean independence movement, and so, by using the "fear-mongering" tactics of lying and propaganda, you're a hypocrite of your own cause.
By saying that "No one said it is UK government who interfered with the referendum, of course they dont want dirty hands in crime." and then just saying "payed(bribed) by the government" defeats your purpose with that.
One point that is entirely clear and factual is that ~94%(by the way, 52+58=/=100) of the eligible voters in Scotland voted. This shows it wasn't "western democracies using propaganda" as it was that the Scottish made their own informed decisions on their future and came to the conclusion by themselves. Yes, in some instances, votes were rigged and messed up, however, due to the large difference in "yes" and "no" voters, it doesn't seem like it would make the bigger difference of making an independent Scotland.
Scotland was given the chance to vote and that's really what matters. There are many countries who have the capabilities to be a sovereign country and haven't had the chance to get a referendum in the world, so Scotland was lucky in comparison. Even with that chance, they still chose BY THEMSELVES(each area that voted no had an average of 84.5% of the voters voting 'no'; a huge amount) that they wanted to remain with the union, most likely due to an uncertain future many of the voters had in mind.
Likewise, you can't say that the government used propaganda or ways to block information about things that could benefit Scotland and that's why there were so many "no" votes. That argument would look only faintly accurate if there were many more "no" voters than there actually were, but you can't hide economics, geopolitics, etc. from 45% of the eligible voters without either word getting out or voters finding various other forms to inform the citizens who were going to vote "no" just what they were giving up.
In all, it was a fair, almost completely accurate vote, and shouldn't be criticized above the arguments of why there were more "no" votes over "yes" votes.
First they publish ''52'' and ''58'' percentage, first false information.
Then we see on cameras that people working on ballots cheat, second fraud.
And we know before referendum, anti-independence movements made pressure, lies and propaganda on scottish people to make them scared and stay in union. Third crime.
No one said it is UK government who interfered with the referendum, of course they dont want dirty hands in crime. Non-government organisations did that, payed(bribed) by the government. We have information by local scots that Scotland was crawled by americans who didnt tell for whom they work, they just spammed propaganda in local community halls, gatherings, meetings, on local tv's and lied how Scotland will suffer like Kenya if they leave the union.
That 52 and 58 is false, anyone with a computer can easily take an image from CNN and then go in and use photoshop and change the numbers to make them look like that. In addition, why is it so bad that they voted to stay with the UK? Does it really surprise you that people who have been with the UK their entire lives did not want to change everything in their daily lives if they seceded? Get out from under your rock and actually see what the world is not what all the propaganda you have seen has made you believe. And yes, clearly the propaganda has worked on you because everything you believe about the west is utterly false and the fact that you continue to turn every little topic of discussion into some way to make the west look "evil" furthermore proves how successful you have become as their puppet. Shall I congratulate you on being their own little puppet?
One point that is entirely clear and factual is that ~94%(by the way, 52+58=/=100) of the eligible voters in Scotland voted. This shows it wasn't "western democracies using propaganda" as it was that the Scottish made their own informed decisions on their future and came to the conclusion by themselves. Yes, in some instances, votes were rigged and messed up, however, due to the large difference in "yes" and "no" voters, it doesn't seem like it would make the bigger difference of making an independent Scotland.
Scotland was given the chance to vote and that's really what matters. There are many countries who have the capabilities to be a sovereign country and haven't had the chance to get a referendum in the world, so Scotland was lucky in comparison. Even with that chance, they still chose BY THEMSELVES(each area that voted no had an average of 84.5% of the voters voting 'no'; a huge amount) that they wanted to remain with the union, most likely due to an uncertain future many of the voters had in mind.
Likewise, you can't say that the government used propaganda or ways to block information about things that could benefit Scotland and that's why there were so many "no" votes. That argument would look only faintly accurate if there were many more "no" voters than there actually were, but you can't hide economics, geopolitics, etc. from 45% of the eligible voters without either word getting out or voters finding various other forms to inform the citizens who were going to vote "no" just what they were giving up.
In all, it was a fair, almost completely accurate vote, and shouldn't be criticized above the arguments of why there were more "no" votes over "yes" votes.
First they publish ''52'' and ''58'' percentage, first false information.
Then we see on cameras that people working on ballots cheat, second fraud.
And we know before referendum, anti-independence movements made pressure, lies and propaganda on scottish people to make them scared and stay in union. Third crime.
No one said it is UK government who interfered with the referendum, of course they dont want dirty hands in crime. Non-government organisations did that, payed(bribed) by the government. We have information by local scots that Scotland was crawled by americans who didnt tell for whom they work, they just spammed propaganda in local community halls, gatherings, meetings, on local tv's and lied how Scotland will suffer like Kenya if they leave the union.
Even if it was false statistics(unfortunately is common when the crew of the news agency is biased or too illiterate), it still showed the main idea people were looking for: who won?
Next, even though we see cameras, this is photographic evidence of one person doing that. Unless you have more evidence to show this happened continually(she continued to swap them for yes, causing many votes to be uncounted rather than just the few she did manage to get by with) and with other people, you cannot generalize the entire referendum's count on one person who would still have insignificant counts for "yes" even if were re-tallied, since the scores for "yes" were by far much lower than "no".
If I remember correctly, this is the same situation that happened in Crimea, where Russian troops stayed(with militarized weaponry not excluding tanks) before, during, and after the vote. The vote wasn't even allowed by the Ukranian government, whereas with the UK government, it was legally passed. With that, I remember you saying that you supported the crimean independence movement, and so, by using the "fear-mongering" tactics of lying and propaganda, you're a hypocrite of your own cause.
By saying that "No one said it is UK government who interfered with the referendum, of course they dont want dirty hands in crime." and then just saying "payed(bribed) by the government" defeats your purpose with that.
you're debating, excuse me, arguing with a rock. best to just smile and wave when a senior citizen still thinks the yugoslavia and soviet union will rise again.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
It's a shame. I was hoping Scotland would vote 'Yes.' It would have caused a major upheaval in the UK, utterly destablisied the status quo, rupturing all major parties. Cameron would have been forced to resign, the Labour party would never hold majority power again, Liberla Democrats would be dead.
Plus, we would have 3 million less people voting to remain in the EU. Thanks to this, the status quo remains solid and we have likely just lost the EU referendum. This has setback Fascism in Britain by a wide margin. We will have to work even harder.
Scottish Independence would have caused the biggest geo political change since the Berlin Wall went down. Which is why it was never going to happen. If the Scots wont leave with a 2 million funded opposition run by wet liberals, there is no way Britain will leave the EU when ALL parties and multi national corporations will burn money to prevent it.
Well, it would be naive to think this would be easy.
First they publish ''52'' and ''58'' percentage, first false information.
A Russian based American media group. The statistics were always verging on 45% Yes. Just because Americans are terrible at math doesnt mean there was a giant rigging.
8 single cases of fraud. As much as I would like to think they cheated, Im pretty sure they didn't. Scots just weren't sure about the outcome of independence. In actual fact, it was female votes which prevented independence. Women voters are notorious for toeing the line. Its why womens suffrage was a terrible idea.
And we know before referendum, anti-independence movements made pressure, lies and propaganda on scottish people to make them scared and stay in union. Third crime.
How is that a crime? JESUS CHRIST, Tito. Can you for once stop playing a moral high ground? Its sickeningly filthy to hear you talk this much shit. Stop it! Fucking stop it! In the past you have openly asserted that you would support a genocide of half the Ukrainian population for not submitting to Russia. SO don't play a moral high ground. You have NONE!
You sound like a child when you talk this much shit. I don't mind if you talk about Russian interest or your own desires for geo politics. But stop pretending you give a fuck about these people when you clearly don't. You are NOT democratic. You SUPPORT genocide. Stop pretending the West is the corrupted evil decadent empire while the East is the perfect rose tinted world of rainbows. It isn't true, no one believes it and we're all frankly sick of it.
You want to see Scotland independent because it benefits your Eastern Empire. I want to see Scotland independent because it benefits my British Fascist interests. That's it. I dont dance around this shit, Im clear about my desires. I'm a Celt, I want my people unified but I udnerstand that Britain is utterly fucked logn term if radical forces dont take control within the next 20 years.
You want Britain to burn, because it hurts the Atlantic Empire. Don't make it out to be anything more than it is. Because it isn't. Don't give me a 3 page essay on how you sympathise, no one and I mean NO ONE believes that shit. Speak like a man, not like a snake. Its disgusting paratistical behavior.
Well well well, look what he have here. Rigged referendum, nice. Another proof of free democratic societies of the 'West'.
Russian soviet communist crying foul play on election results. How do you do it Tito? How do you function with your monumental cognitive dissonance?
support
(though not all americans are bad at math. im pretty good at it. also, im pretty sure the photo was photoshopped, otherwise a link and a ss would have been more valid )
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
First they publish ''52'' and ''58'' percentage, first false information.
A Russian based American media group. The statistics were always verging on 45% Yes. Just because Americans are terrible at math doesnt mean there was a giant rigging.
8 single cases of fraud. As much as I would like to think they cheated, Im pretty sure they didn't. Scots just weren't sure about the outcome of independence. In actual fact, it was female votes which prevented independence. Women voters are notorious for toeing the line. Its why womens suffrage was a terrible idea.
And we know before referendum, anti-independence movements made pressure, lies and propaganda on scottish people to make them scared and stay in union. Third crime.
How is that a crime? JESUS CHRIST, Tito. Can you for once stop playing a moral high ground? Its sickeningly filthy to hear you talk this much shit. Stop it! Fucking stop it! In the past you have openly asserted that you would support a genocide of half the Ukrainian population for not submitting to Russia. SO don't play a moral high ground. You have NONE!
You sound like a child when you talk this much shit. I don't mind if you talk about Russian interest or your own desires for geo politics. But stop pretending you give a fuck about these people when you clearly don't. You are NOT democratic. You SUPPORT genocide. Stop pretending the West is the corrupted evil decadent empire while the East is the perfect rose tinted world of rainbows. It isn't true, no one believes it and we're all frankly sick of it.
You want to see Scotland independent because it benefits your Eastern Empire. I want to see Scotland independent because it benefits my British Fascist interests. That's it. I dont dance around this shit, Im clear about my desires. I'm a Celt, I want my people unified but I udnerstand that Britain is utterly fucked logn term if radical forces dont take control within the next 20 years.
You want Britain to burn, because it hurts the Atlantic Empire. Don't make it out to be anything more than it is. Because it isn't. Don't give me a 3 page essay on how you sympathise, no one and I mean NO ONE believes that shit. Speak like a man, not like a snake. Its disgusting paratistical behavior.
Everything you said about Tito is completely true. Although we dont always agree on the same ideas I can certainly tell you that I believe everything you just said about Tito
Well well well, look what he have here. Rigged referendum, nice. Another proof of free democratic societies of the 'West'.
Russian soviet communist crying foul play on election results. How do you do it Tito? How do you function with your monumental cognitive dissonance?
im pretty sure the photo was photoshopped, otherwise a link and a ss would have been more valid )
i cant see the top photo D;. also going on the street to talk to random people in a single location is not how to conduct random sampling. sampling must be done nationwide with roughly 1500-1800 based on the population of america so provide accurate details on the nation as a whoole. i guess if i found video on youtube of a bunch of russian people who were drunk, it proves all russians are drunk?
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
Crimea always had troops, since russians took it in 18th century. Russians and tatars live there, and there is russian army since then. Russian base on Crimea had 11,000 soldiers, they were in their bases and ports, while russian citizens of Crimea live in Crimean cities. Russian citizens of Crimea seceded from Nazi Ukraine and hold referendum, they created self-defence forces / militia to protect Crimea from nazi raids. Therefore russians didnt threat russians to vote yes on referendum. Thats nothing wrong, it is legitimate and by the law, though it didnt had to be purused by the law because they seceded from nazi state, no normal country recognize nazism, and thus laws doesnt apply on them. Yet they did all by the law and saved themselfs from nazis, and fixed historical mistake of giving Crimea to 'ukraine' aka russian region with republic status.
It's like Russia Today on steroids.You did it again. Nazi this. Nazi that.Both the President and Prime Minister of Ukraine are JEWS! How are they Nazis? How in the fuck are they Nazis? The shit you spout never ends.
Listen to these excuses you use, the mental gymnastics you have to go through to justify the theft of Crimea as if it were a totally moral act in the eyes of international law. As if Russia had NO input or co operation in the event whatsoever. As if they didn't ATTACK Ukrainian naval vessels. As if they didn't OPENLY steal them from the Ukrainian navy. They ATTACKED Ukrainian military bases.The hilarious part is the Crimea referendum gave NO option to remain in Ukraine. They had two options, unite with Russia or become an independent state. How is that even fair? How is that a democratic choice you claim to love so much when the option is taken away? Its the equivalent to Britain taking out the Yes option of their Scottish referendum.
And if the voting was rigged, at least the West is smart enough to give credible stats. Crimeans voted 96.77% to join Russia? Please.That vote was a joke, a complete joke.
You continually do this and I don't get it. You promote ethnic genocide one minute then whine about democracy the next? You have the audacity to bitch about the western vote but ignore the Russians literally taking away a significant option in their votes?
How do you contain so many dividing view points? Better question. Why do you do it? Why do you lie so often to everyone here?
Here's a tip. TRY BEING HONEST. STOP LYING.
Admit it. Stealing Crimea benefits your interests. Its not about how Crimean s feel, you don't give a fuck how they feel. You want to see Russian expand its interests. That's it. Noone here will contradict that view. But when you, like usual, play this fucking devious mind game, it unbearable to listen to.
Making pressure and threats on civilians is a crime. They deliberetely lied to scots and used massspam propaganda to bring fear and force them vote 'no'.
Its called propaganda. Its not new. Its not immoral, both East and West use propaganda. Its ancient. How is it immoral for the West to do it but not the East?
I never said i support genocide, thats one of your lies.
You OPENLY said that if Russia had any balls 'like the old days,' it would wipe out half the Ukrainian population to dominate the territory. You said that. Dont deny it, you did say that and everyone read it.
You support fascism and openly claim holocaust didnt happened, so all goes in my favor. You are menace for this world because you support one of the greatest evils which almost ended life on this planet.
Blah blah fucking blah. I don't give a fuck old man. I'm honest about what I am. I'm not scared about what I am, I'm proud of it. You are ashamed of what you are which is why you lie about it.
In normal state, if you say you are nazi you would be instantlly arrested and judged 20 years in prison.
See this shit? One minute, he cries about democracy, the next, he says he''d lock people up for an opposing view point. I love how he calls it a 'normal' state. What the fuck is a 'normal' state? This stupidity is endless. You know whats HILARIOUS? Across Europe, openly communist parties are allowed to take part in elections while open National Socialist parties are banned. Communist parties cant achieve a damn thing, they are pathetic. NatSoc parties are banned because if we were allowed open parties, we would win. In Austria alone, a recent poll showed 90% would vote for the NSDAP if it were legal. Your ideology isn't democratic, nor is the West. You are terrified of us because we represent the people. Even this shitty forum bans our thoughts. They call it hate speech, they censor it our of fear. Not because it is offensive but because some people might listen and be convinced.
They fear us. 70 years and what did the socialists do? NOTHING. In a decade we took all of Europe.If Hitler and the NSDAP rose from the dead tomorrow, how many would vote for it? What about your own population? Russia has more Nat Soc groups than all of Europe combined. Your own damn people would follow him.
But not on wild west, you have freedom to shit on everything and everyone, and make stories, revision history, blame others, invade sovereign innocent states.
Because Russia never invaded sovereign innocent Ukraine did it? Nope. So democratic that when the Crimean referendum came around, they stripped them of the ability to vote to remain in Ukraine.
Your own 'liberties' will backfire at you, there doesnt have to be nuclear or cold war, as this problem is progressive, it is faster each day, it double its speed every minute. It is just a matter of time when your states will collapse from ignorance and stupidity.
Good. Let it burn. From its ashes, the Fascist will rise along with an Empire like no other before. Hail Victory. Deus Vult!
It's like Russia Today on steroids.You did it again. Nazi this. Nazi that.Both the President and Prime Minister of Ukraine are JEWS! How are they Nazis? How in the fuck are they Nazis? The shit you spout never ends.
Listen to these excuses you use, the mental gymnastics you have to go through to justify the theft of Crimea as if it were a totally moral act in the eyes of international law. As if Russia had NO input or co operation in the event whatsoever. As if they didn't ATTACK Ukrainian naval vessels. As if they didn't OPENLY steal them from the Ukrainian navy. They ATTACKED Ukrainian military bases.The hilarious part is the Crimea referendum gave NO option to remain in Ukraine. They had two options, unite with Russia or become an independent state. How is that even fair? How is that a democratic choice you claim to love so much when the option is taken away? Its the equivalent to Britain taking out the Yes option of their Scottish referendum.
And if the voting was rigged, at least the West is smart enough to give credible stats. Crimeans voted 96.77% to join Russia? Please.That vote was a joke, a complete joke.
You continually do this and I don't get it. You promote ethnic genocide one minute then whine about democracy the next? You have the audacity to bitch about the western vote but ignore the Russians literally taking away a significant option in their votes?
How do you contain so many dividing view points? Better question. Why do you do it? Why do you lie so often to everyone here?
Here's a tip. TRY BEING HONEST. STOP LYING.
Admit it. Stealing Crimea benefits your interests. Its not about how Crimean s feel, you don't give a fuck how they feel. You want to see Russian expand its interests. That's it. Noone here will contradict that view. But when you, like usual, play this fucking devious mind game, it unbearable to listen to.
Yeah, i want Russia to expand as much as possible, it is land we need, 20,000 km/2 is boost for small Russia
Yanukovich was legally elected president of Ukraine, Right Sector - group made of nationalists and nazis, and terrorists made a putch/coup and took power. If Yanukovich didnt fled he would be hanged by terrorist nazis in Kiev. They are murderers, killers, rapists and terrorists with endless list of crimes made in the past 20 years, their leaders are in top 10 most wanted criminals. Thus, new ukrainian government is nazi as they have nazis on power and they pursue new program of killing EVERY non-ukrainian. Genocide already occured in Odessa where 44 people lost lives.
Russian troops didnt leave their bases on Crimea, so they couldnt attack ukrainian bases, but Crimean self-defence forces could, they dont belong to Russian Armed Forces.
Ukrainian generals and commanders fled Ukraine and find refuge to Russia as they dont want to obey new nazi governmet. Ukrainian fleet is crushed as their only Admiral fled to Russia and no one left to command the fleet. Ukrainian troops who were FORCEFULLY mobilized to invade eastern parts of ukraine are surrendering to pro-russian troops as they dont want to fight brothers.
International Brigade has been created to fight the nazis, they fight alongside Pro-Russian Forces in Lugansk and Donetsk. They have 4,000 strong men, french, germans, spanish, romanians, serbs, greeks, turks, armenians, belorussians and ukrainians.
My interest is to protect the people, everyone who opened his eyes and see the truth is welcome on the East. Everyone who want to escape western totalitarism is welcome here, like Gerard Depardieu or Edward Snowden.
So basically anyone who wasn't born in Russia and who has no ties to Russia is a nazi?
They are murderers, killers, rapists and terrorists with endless list of crimes made in the past 20 years, their leaders are in top 10 most wanted criminals.
This is literally lies. Literal lies. Rapists? Are you serious? Old man, you are losing it. Wanted by who? Can you name a single name? Wanted where? By Russia? LOL.
Thus, new ukrainian government is nazi as they have nazis on power and they pursue new program of killing EVERY non-ukrainian. Genocide already occured in Odessa where 44 people lost lives.
44 people dying in a fire is genocide? I just told you, the president and prime minister of Ukraine are Jews. HOW ARE THEY NAZIS? Im not some Russian prole. Noone here is. We aren't stupid. Both the top leaders of Ukraine are Jewish. This is concrete fact. Undeniable. Yet you call them Nazis, its a fucking joke. You are a fucking joke.
Russian troops didnt leave their bases on Crimea, so they couldnt attack ukrainian bases, but Crimean self-defence forces could, they dont belong to Russian Armed Forces.
HA HA. No. Dont lie. Russian troops did attack Ukrainian naval ships and bases. This is a fact. A large portion of those self defense peoples were Russian soldiers. Even so, it was Russian troops who attacked Ukrainian ships and stol them. Ukraine lost most of its navy to Russian theft. YES, RUSSIAN THEFT. Did they give those ships back? No, they didn't..
Ukrainian generals and commanders fled Ukraine and find refuge to Russia as they dont want to obey new nazi governmet.
Never happened. Ukrainian soldiers were detained by Russia. Russia claimed they defected. 18K soldiers don't defect. Soldiers who sore oaths to their nation do not defect.
Ukrainian fleet is crushed as their only Admiral fled to Russia and no one left to command the fleet. Ukrainian troops who were FORCEFULLY mobilized to invade eastern parts of Ukraine are surrendering to pro-russian troops as they dont want to fight brothers.
Fled? Oh please, these lies. So Russians should attack and steal Ukrainian naval ships? I have videos of them doing this. Dont play dumb old man.
International Brigade has been created to fight the nazis, they fight alongside Pro-Russian Forces in Lugansk and Donetsk. They have 4,000 strong men, french, germans, spanish, romanians, serbs, greeks, turks, armenians, belorussians and ukrainians.
Do you even know how many Nat Socs are fighting with the Russians? HA HA. There are Nat Socs on both sides but the Ukrainian government is NOT Nazi. There isn't a single hint of evidence. The Prime Minister and President are Jewish. How are they nazis? You keep calling them Nazis yet you do not give any rebuttal to the fact that Kiev administration is represented by Jewish people.
The Azov battalion IS National Socialist. Despite being cornered, despite no support from Kiev, despite being surrounded, they forced Donetsk to concede defeat. When Azov gets enough men, they will turn on Kiev. Then you'll see a real Nazi government, right on your doorstep. Then Ill call it Nazi, proudly.
My interest is to protect the people, everyone who opened his eyes and see the truth is welcome on the East. Everyone who want to escape western totalitarism is welcome here, like Gerard Depardieu or Edward Snowden.
This entire tirade failed to address the CORE point. Crime did NOT have the option to remain in Ukraine. You bitch about vote rigging in Scotland without NAY evidence and yet dare ignore what Russia id in Ukraine. Crimean s had NO option to remain in Ukraine. That is NOT democracy.
No, you don't care about them. You dont care about any of them. You lie, constantly. I am always honest, that is why i am respected and why you are a joke to everyone here.
