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نشرت بواسطة Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

01.09.2016 - 14:09
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3 on equite
3 talent to rome
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01.09.2016 - 14:16
"I agree with Phoenicus, we should punish those gauls. Octavius was not the right man for the job as I had said, we need the Consul to finish the job.

This Hannibal is another matter entirely we will have to deal with when the other two are addressed."


+Collect debt of 6 talents from Publius Marius (Pyrrhus )

-6 talents to rome
-3 Talents gift to Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816)
-6 Talents on Equite
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01.09.2016 - 14:23
For once I agree with Senator Phoenicus

3 talents on Equite
6 talents to repay debt to Sertorius
4 talents to Rome
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01.09.2016 - 14:39
1 talent on equite
3 to rome
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01.09.2016 - 15:06
1 on Equite

The Macedonian threat cannot be ignored. While Hannibal is a great commander and a danger to Rome, his current army is all he will get. In contrast, the Macedonian army will grow, adding Illyrians, southern Greeks and perhaps even Seleucids to it's forces, therefore it must be dealt with at once.
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01.09.2016 - 15:08
3 on equite
Donate two to Rome
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01.09.2016 - 15:12
3 on equite, 2 on rome
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01.09.2016 - 15:28
I used the right strategy against the barbarians but nope, they just go all faggot and get a lucky roll
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01.09.2016 - 15:30
I shall follow in the wise footsteps of my father, Quantius, and am overwhelmed to be in the senate.

3 on equite, 2 to rome
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01.09.2016 - 15:32
كتب بواسطة Tirpitz406, 01.09.2016 at 15:28

I used the right strategy against the barbarians but nope, they just go all faggot and get a lucky roll

You need sexy Scipio to win
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01.09.2016 - 15:40
All my money to rome
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01.09.2016 - 16:28
6 on equite
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01.09.2016 - 21:19
With the growing divide in ROme between the factions, I would like to nominate myself for Consul in order to add a neutral voice.
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01.09.2016 - 22:31
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كتب بواسطة Pheonixking929, 01.09.2016 at 21:19

With the growing divide in ROme between the factions, I would like to nominate myself for Consul in order to add a neutral voice.

Support, you'll have my vote.
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02.09.2016 - 04:26
3 on equite
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02.09.2016 - 05:30
I reccomend that we anhilate the Gauls and Macedonians this turn and face Hannibal with full strength the next
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02.09.2016 - 06:45
3 on equite.

I think i got equite last turn, so i have 2 now. I had +2 and rolled 6.
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02.09.2016 - 09:04
Roll 1 for equite
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02.09.2016 - 10:10
==Turn 7: Phase 2 has begun==
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02.09.2016 - 10:16
OMFG.... 6 legions..... I said 6 veterans and 3 fresh... now I'm only rolling +5 and room for error is unnecessarily larger... Jesus Christ.

When you roll a dice, the chances of rolling 3,4 or 5 are 10/216... in order to get those odds I needed to roll +8....

the chances of rolling 3,4,5,6,7 or 8 are 56/216...

Look at this link, you might learn something about statistics

http://statistics.about.com/od/ProbHelpandTutorials/a/Probabilities-For-Rolling-Three-Dice.htm

3 legions are the difference between us rolling a 19/20 chance of victory and a 3/4 chance of victory....



Not to mention if we build 6 new legions mrarmy will have 17 to fight a weaker opponent and has a higher roll of +7.... you're rolling 24 vs 10.... while I'm rolling 17 vs 12......
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02.09.2016 - 10:31
"Phoenicus, risks must be taken, the gauls need to be destroyed foremost. You should be grateful for your command, I know many who would jump to take your place commanding the 6 veteran legions. Without risk there is no reward."


Consul Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo) & Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
1)Publius Marius (Pyrrhus)

Praetor Vote
2)Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu)




Replace Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) command the 1st Gallic War with?
1) Consul Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1)6 Legions

Force deployments
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero) from exile?
2)Nay

Reject Rhodian Maritime Alliance (lose 8 fleets they sent, save on upkeep)
2)Nay

Harbor Fees (+3 talents per turn)(winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls)
Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816)
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02.09.2016 - 10:32
 Witch-Doctor (مراقب)
Consul Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo) & Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )


Censor Vote
2)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote
1)Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome)

Replace Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) command the 1st Gallic War with?
1) Consul Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
2)8 Legions

Force deployments
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero) from exile?
1)Aye

Reject Rhodian Maritime Alliance (lose 8 fleets they sent, save on upkeep)
2)Nay


Harbor Fees (+3 talents per turn)(winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls)
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)Backed by both consuls +24 votes)
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02.09.2016 - 10:34
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 02.09.2016 at 10:31

"Phoenicus, risks must be taken, the gauls need to be destroyed foremost. You should be grateful for your command, I know many who would jump to take your place commanding the 6 veteran legions. Without risk there is no reward."



Why am I the one forced to take the risk when I can gaurantee a win when properly equipped? While mrarmy is rolling 23 vs 10 and can still lose to a disaster roll like Tirpitz last turn?

Its not me at risk its the Republic!

With this distribution of troops we are more likely to lose. That is a fact. Who's reckless idea was this?
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02.09.2016 - 11:08
Consul Vote
1)Decius Herminius Damasippus (Resting Lime) & Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406)


Censor Vote
2)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote
1)Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome)

The Consuls have chosen not to appoint a commander of the Second Punic War

Replace Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) command the 1st Gallic War with?
1) Consul Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
2)8 Legion

Force deployments
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero) from exile?
1)Aye

Reject Rhodian Maritime Alliance (lose 8 fleets they sent, save on upkeep)
2)Nay


Harbor Fees
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)l
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02.09.2016 - 11:11
Consul: 2
Praetor: 2
Gallic War: 1
Levying: 2
Force Deployment: 1
Asellio: 2
Rhodian fleet: 1
Harbour Fees: Caspiel Rex Secundus
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02.09.2016 - 11:12
Whose idea was it to send our Veterans alone into battle, that is, without having normal legions to use as meatshields?
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02.09.2016 - 11:41
Consul Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo) & Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
1)Publius Marius (Pyrrhus)

Praetor Vote
2)Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu)

Replace Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) command the 1st Gallic War with?
1) Consul Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
2)8 Legions

Force deployments
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero) from exile?
2)Nay

Reject Rhodian Maritime Alliance (lose 8 fleets they sent, save on upkeep)
2)Nay

Harbor Fees
Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816)
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02.09.2016 - 12:37
Consul Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo) & Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
1)Publius Marius (Pyrrhus)

Praetor Vote
1)Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome)


"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Commands
The Consuls have chosen not to replace Aquila Phoenicus (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War

The Consuls have chosen not to appoint a commander of the Second Punic War

Replace Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) command the 1st Gallic War with?
1) Consul Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1)6 Legions

I personally think we should recruit fewer legions this round, sending as few legions as possible it typically the best call. I also was the one that suggested the deployment of 6 veteran legions to Macedonia following that logic, worst case scenario for a bad tactic would still result in a victor if I am correct. If not I made mistake, but still keep in min that we can recruit less legions this turn, keep more money and risk less.

Force deployments
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero) from exile?
2)Nay

Reject Rhodian Maritime Alliance (lose 8 fleets they sent, save on upkeep)
2)Nay


Harbor Fees (+3 talents per turn)(winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls)
Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)Backed by both consuls +24 votes
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02.09.2016 - 13:22

Assassination Attempt

As Sertorius leaves the senate after voting a man lunges at him with a dagger but his bodyguard emerges to protect him. The would be assasin manages to escape.

Roll: 5 (-1 from secret bodyguard =4 I pmed tunder I bought this card yesterday)
Result: assassination fails but he escapes



btw: don't pm me if you are going to assassinate me , pm tunder. I shouldn't know who is out to kill me this is just ludicrous. Also to the person who did, if you hate your life in this game don't go out like a baby and suicide bomb, I have done nothing to you. Seriously just kys instead.
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02.09.2016 - 13:24
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 02.09.2016 at 13:22

(-1 from secret bodyguard =4 I pmed tunder I bought this card yesterday)



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