Free PvP Players

I didn't say Competitive on purpose, competitive can be scenario or rp players also, not only the PvP ones, so a monopoly on this term in the direction of PvP seems unfair for me.

However, the reason I have created this topic for is this:

You may be aware that Mortal Kombat and Vibes are history now, as well as some old clans. New clans arose and they are kicking on the door of cw-ing with more and more power, wanting to be heard.

With the risk of being a target for hate, I will transmit to all the clanless PvP players a message right here:

- Our coalition dont need you no more, we will make it on our own, lose 5 times, win 1, lose 4 times, win 1 and so on and so forth.
- We will never give up and join your coalitions too, be happy for the extra man power you just received and cw rarely as you do now, sleep the sweet sleep of self appreciation and when season is about to end [gl] cw, cw, cw usssss
- Avoid us because we dare to have just a little flicker of hope in us, a flicker of being a unique pvp-scenario clan.
-We will do our thing, I understand your ignorance cold heartedness towards us, you can't see a contender near you and not think ~look at this noob~, but you have 3-5k games bro, I have 1.5k(I guess you learned more in a few more thousands games...), I forgive you in advance for calling me a narb or my coalition a farm clan, don't worry.

Cya in cws and duels, you safety seeking players,

yours free narb contender



(if the Mods consider this a flame starter or a cry thread , go on and lock it or move it to off topic? I just wanted to unload this burden to the community)

Idk what's the whole purpose of it but... nice writting

كتب بواسطة Guest, 09.02.2017 at 16:54

- Our coalition dont need you no more, we will make it on our own, lose 5 times, win 1, lose 4 times, win 1 and so on and so forth.
- We will never give up and join your coalitions too, be happy for the extra man power you just received and cw rarely as you do now, sleep the sweet sleep of self appreciation and when season is about to end [gl] cw, cw, cw usssss
- Avoid us because we dare to have just a little flicker of hope in us, a flicker of being a unique pvp-scenario clan.
-We will do our thing, I understand your ignorance cold heartedness towards us, you can't see a contender near you and not think ~look at this noob~, but you have 3-5k games bro, I have 1.5k(I guess you learned more in a few more thousands games...), I forgive you in advance for calling me a narb or my coalition a farm clan, don't worry.

Sorry mate but this sentence literally makes no sense at all in English. Nobody ever said RP or scenario players can't be competitive. There's a reason why the eu+ field is considered mainstream competitive, and it's cause it's the most balanced out of other maps.

What a pointless thread.

كتب بواسطة Guest, 09.02.2017 at 16:54

I didn't say Competitive on purpose, competitive can be scenario or rp players also, not only the PvP ones, so a monopoly on this term in the direction of PvP seems unfair for me.

UPVOTED + REPPED WELL SAID

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 17:17

There's a reason why the eu+ field is considered mainstream competitive, and it's cause it's the most balanced out of other maps.

Wow

would unrep + e list + i list if it wasn't for...

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 17:17

Nobody ever said RP or scenario players can't be competitive.

But in case you're wondering, the reason about why Eu+ became so mainstream was due to the earlier traditions (old players didn't had custom/scenarios, they USED to play Eu+ often, originally 3-5k then 10k).

Ukraine is unarguably OPer than any other country in 1vs1. Maybe in 3vs3 it is somewhat balanced but still strong.

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 17:57

But in case you're wondering, the reason about why Eu+ became so mainstream was due to the earlier traditions (old players didn't had custom/scenarios, they USED to play Eu+ often, originally 3-5k then 10k).

Ukraine is unarguably OPer than any other country in 1vs1. Maybe in 3vs3 it is somewhat balanced but still strong.

Let me clarify this. I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

Second of all, Europe is the closest balanced + fun map you're gonna get in the spectrum. I'm pretty sure there are some maps with the same exact amount of units and sides, but who would play that?

There's a reason why eu+ is the most played/mainstream competitive map, not just because it's balanced, but also because it's arguably the easiest to fill to, which is a point I forgot. I'm pretty sure some scenarios like WW1 could also apply (albeit central powers are more favored to win), but you're not gonna fill that easily on cw. There's also no need to talk about RP or other scenarios since everybody well knows that 95% of them aren't good enough. It's just a fact.

And Ukraine isn't OP in 1v1, and I find that surprising coming from you. Turkey can easily beat Ukraine by going west and lming/hitting Scandi early. Anyone can do that.

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

Let me clarify this. I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

Second of all, Europe is the closest balanced + fun map you're gonna get in the spectrum. I'm pretty sure there are some maps with the same exact amount of units and sides, but who would play that?

There's a reason why eu+ is the most played/mainstream competitive map, not just because it's balanced, but also because it's arguably the easiest to fill to, which is a point I forgot. I'm pretty sure some scenarios like WW1 could also apply (albeit central powers are more favored to win), but you're not gonna fill that easily on cw. There's also no need to talk about RP or other scenarios since everybody well knows that 95% of them aren't good enough. It's just a fact.

And Ukraine isn't OP in 1v1, and I find that surprising coming from you. Turkey can easily beat Ukraine by going west and lming/hitting Scandi early. Anyone can do that.

I'm a little subjective, but i completly disagree, i think that before it was over updated and restricted, WWII scenario was the most competitive zone at the game, at the peak of WWII (2011 - middle 2012) all best players played it every evening and night and honestly playing Europe+ 20 players orgies was just to get quick sp for upgrades, the CWs competitive scene rised after the fall of the scenarios scene since trolls and idiots forced themselves upon it and then clan wars came back and it went on to what it is today while scenarios started attenting and appealing to new players and even easier sp seekers.

Now, i don't say that nowdays scenarios should be a model to competitiveness more than europe+, because they are so limited and restricted and have nothing to do with competitiveness, but it was already proven that you can compete on another zone except euorpe+

I dont understand whats going on.

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

opi was a true RP player before jumping into the competitive scene. Shadow Aces crew (deviL, Cthulhu, headbre, I think even RaulPB) as well as fer and zone were born in Ancient World. I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

There are plenty of examples. You probably didn't knew...

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

And Ukraine isn't OP in 1v1, and I find that surprising coming from you.

Because it's coming from me is that you should'be took the point more serious. But alas, not only me:

كتب بواسطة Chess, 17.01.2017 at 22:11

I don't think GW/GC/PD Ukraine is any weaker than DS Ukraine. Generally I would say Ukraine is much stronger than Turkey. Even with None hue.

I won't argue about ukraine's opness as it is far beyond the point of the thread (I just used it as an example about why Eu+ is not balanced). Regardless of whenever Eu+ is balanced or not, my point still stands: the map became the center of attention due to the old players and not because it was the most balanced or funnier map. The old players used to play it a lot because there wasn't custom maps or scenarios at that time, plus Europe geographic flavor a fast-paced game to the pre-early 3k and 5k settings, which were played a lot more than nowadays. I can agree with you that other zones of the default map weren't that good for 3vs3 3k due to the lack of variety of picks.

كتب بواسطة Rock Lee, 09.02.2017 at 18:33

the CWs competitive scene rised after the fall of the scenarios scene since trolls and idiots forced themselves upon it and then clan wars came back and it went on to what it is today while scenarios started attenting and appealing to new players and even easier sp seekers.

I'm unsure about that. I can tell that WW2 had pretty good players with the likes of Unleashed, Tunder, Meester, Khal, Nero, Me (even tho u didn't saw me khal), and a bunch of other players. Even learster used to play it often.

The CW system was rather over-restrictive back then, with only 10 games per season. Quality over Quantity. After that changed and the ELO system was introduced then we saw a new era in CWs, which was some months after the fall of WW2 I believe.

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Also please ignore whatever boring-long comment Laochra made in this thread. Thanks.

FFLeo, in plain and simple terms this thread expresses my anger, fury and maybe frustration for not being able to attract more PvP players in my coalition, it is not the end of the problem, anything can happen in the future. You hijacked the core meaning of the thread and directed your comment towards the objection at the beginning which, obviously, was just a harmless introduction. Yes, FFLeo, sometimes when people are angry and frustrated they speak ambiguously, you should've laid back for a second, maybe go to the window and watch the people pass by, think for a second and then throw your remark "What a pointless thread," I am sure you've grasped a bit of the red thread of this post I've made late in the night and maybe comment something else. But let me go your way just for a second, you say "What a pointless thread" when you clearly didn't understand what was this about, and commented about..the obvious, the introduction, this was ok too, because it started the dialogue, but if I would do the same and talk about the ending of your first comment "What a pointless thread," this denotes, as a final comment, your crushing superiority above the content of my thread and going further, this was to suggest your superiority and clear-mindedness over me, oh, well sir, well done, *slow claps*, I am in awe, I had not seen such lucidity since a long time (sarcasm intensifies). But w8, if you didn't grasp the meaning of the thread, this means you lack understanding or you simply can't read between the lines, oh man, I've said them, two straight to the target euphemisms, vjjjjjjjjjjj, bum!

However, I am glad that by this we got a history lesson coming from Roai and clovis and out of my frustration and maybe ambiguity of sense, something constructive and a dialogue came out.

Mods, you can lock this if u please, ty.

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

I'm unsure about that. I can tell that WW2 had pretty good players with the likes of Unleashed, Tunder, Meester, Khal, Nero, Me (even tho u didn't saw me khal), and a bunch of other players. Even learster used to play it often.

The CW system was rather over-restrictive back then, with only 10 games per season. Quality over Quantity. After that changed and the ELO system was introduced then we saw a new era in CWs, which was some months after the fall of WW2 I believe.

you are examining the late era of the community after the decreasing already began, to be honest i retired before i had to honour to play WWII with players like Nero, Meester or Khal, i barely remember names since i had clinical death in 2013 and lost much of my memory (had to relearn to play, sort of, and pissed everybody off in meanwhile) but i can mention players that kept playing after that like Pinherio, xn0ize and NateBaller. in fact, the term of "skills" refered to WWII community back then, talented players like fruit liked farming by late joining default games, but that was it, all competitiveness happened in the WWII area.

Even Though, i had the honour to found a clan and play cws against clans like Dalmati and meet empire serb on world games, our cws against dalmati were not "Quality over Quantity", that's a myth, the first cw against them was the first time Dalmati examined UK in Europe+ game, you know how did they play it? by resembling WWII USA, they created destroyers walls over the Island and financed Russia, on the same time every average WWII player already mastered almost 20 diffrent roles of the scenarios, the dedication of the community was'snt at the cws

Admins did'nt only change the cws system since then, they changed everything to simplify the games, the game mechanics, the strategies, walling systems, movments and crossing capabilities, the SP rewards, the attitude toward farming, so i really don't find value in that claim.

Also, i think the ancient is just warborn legion with another name, but i was'snt around to know.

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

opi was a true RP player before jumping into the competitive scene. Shadow Aces crew (deviL, Cthulhu, headbre, I think even RaulPB) as well as fer and zone were born in Ancient World. I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

There are plenty of examples. You probably didn't knew...

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

And Ukraine isn't OP in 1v1, and I find that surprising coming from you.

Because it's coming from me is that you should'be took the point more serious. But alas, not only me:

كتب بواسطة Chess, 17.01.2017 at 22:11

I don't think GW/GC/PD Ukraine is any weaker than DS Ukraine. Generally I would say Ukraine is much stronger than Turkey. Even with None hue.

I won't argue about ukraine's opness as it is far beyond the point of the thread (I just used it as an example about why Eu+ is not balanced). Regardless of whenever Eu+ is balanced or not, my point still stands: the map became the center of attention due to the old players and not because it was the most balanced or funnier map. The old players used to play it a lot because there wasn't custom maps or scenarios at that time, plus Europe geographic flavor a fast-paced game to the pre-early 3k and 5k settings, which were played a lot more than nowadays. I can agree with you that other zones of the default map weren't that good for 3vs3 3k due to the lack of variety of picks.

كتب بواسطة Rock Lee, 09.02.2017 at 18:33

the CWs competitive scene rised after the fall of the scenarios scene since trolls and idiots forced themselves upon it and then clan wars came back and it went on to what it is today while scenarios started attenting and appealing to new players and even easier sp seekers.

I'm unsure about that. I can tell that WW2 had pretty good players with the likes of Unleashed, Tunder, Meester, Khal, Nero, Me (even tho u didn't saw me khal), and a bunch of other players. Even learster used to play it often.

The CW system was rather over-restrictive back then, with only 10 games per season. Quality over Quantity. After that changed and the ELO system was introduced then we saw a new era in CWs, which was some months after the fall of WW2 I believe.

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Also please ignore whatever boring-long comment Laochra made in this thread. Thanks.

No one ever remembers helly, Is always Nero this Nero that (no offense nero), when litterally I am the best Italian front player on aw in ww2. I can get 158 infantry + event units (forget exact number) in Cairo by turn 4. If people did not plan ahead for that power I'd be in India by turn 8.

كتب بواسطة Helly, 10.02.2017 at 03:54

If people did not plan ahead for that power I'd be in India by turn 8.

I once captured india as germany (at the times vichy nazi and manstein were the same player) even before that

كتب بواسطة Helly, 10.02.2017 at 03:54

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

opi was a true RP player before jumping into the competitive scene. Shadow Aces crew (deviL, Cthulhu, headbre, I think even RaulPB) as well as fer and zone were born in Ancient World. I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

There are plenty of examples. You probably didn't knew...

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

And Ukraine isn't OP in 1v1, and I find that surprising coming from you.

Because it's coming from me is that you should'be took the point more serious. But alas, not only me:

كتب بواسطة Chess, 17.01.2017 at 22:11

I don't think GW/GC/PD Ukraine is any weaker than DS Ukraine. Generally I would say Ukraine is much stronger than Turkey. Even with None hue.

I won't argue about ukraine's opness as it is far beyond the point of the thread (I just used it as an example about why Eu+ is not balanced). Regardless of whenever Eu+ is balanced or not, my point still stands: the map became the center of attention due to the old players and not because it was the most balanced or funnier map. The old players used to play it a lot because there wasn't custom maps or scenarios at that time, plus Europe geographic flavor a fast-paced game to the pre-early 3k and 5k settings, which were played a lot more than nowadays. I can agree with you that other zones of the default map weren't that good for 3vs3 3k due to the lack of variety of picks.

كتب بواسطة Rock Lee, 09.02.2017 at 18:33

the CWs competitive scene rised after the fall of the scenarios scene since trolls and idiots forced themselves upon it and then clan wars came back and it went on to what it is today while scenarios started attenting and appealing to new players and even easier sp seekers.

I'm unsure about that. I can tell that WW2 had pretty good players with the likes of Unleashed, Tunder, Meester, Khal, Nero, Me (even tho u didn't saw me khal), and a bunch of other players. Even learster used to play it often.

The CW system was rather over-restrictive back then, with only 10 games per season. Quality over Quantity. After that changed and the ELO system was introduced then we saw a new era in CWs, which was some months after the fall of WW2 I believe.

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Also please ignore whatever boring-long comment Laochra made in this thread. Thanks.

No one ever remembers helly, Is always Nero this Nero that (no offense nero), when litterally I am the best Italian front player on aw in ww2. I can get 158 infantry + event units (forget exact number) in Cairo by turn 4. If people did not plan ahead for that power I'd be in India by turn 8.

there we go.... another thread hellraiser seeks attention.


ps. theres nothing to remember about you

Vibes is history? Lol 2 month cln is history?

كتب بواسطة Rock Lee, 10.02.2017 at 03:07

you are examining the late era of the community after the decreasing already began, to be honest i retired before i had to honour to play WWII with players like Nero, Meester or Khal, i barely remember names since i had clinical death in 2013 and lost much of my memory (had to relearn to play, sort of, and pissed everybody off in meanwhile) but i can mention players that kept playing after that like Pinherio, xn0ize and NateBaller. in fact, the term of "skills" refered to WWII community back then, talented players like fruit liked farming by late joining default games, but that was it, all competitiveness happened in the WWII area.

Roai you're a legend.

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 10.02.2017 at 05:40

كتب بواسطة Rock Lee, 10.02.2017 at 03:07

you are examining the late era of the community after the decreasing already began, to be honest i retired before i had to honour to play WWII with players like Nero, Meester or Khal, i barely remember names since i had clinical death in 2013 and lost much of my memory (had to relearn to play, sort of, and pissed everybody off in meanwhile) but i can mention players that kept playing after that like Pinherio, xn0ize and NateBaller. in fact, the term of "skills" refered to WWII community back then, talented players like fruit liked farming by late joining default games, but that was it, all competitiveness happened in the WWII area.

Roai you're a legend.

are you being sarcastic?

كتب بواسطة Guest, 10.02.2017 at 05:32

Vibes is history? Lol 2 month cln is history?

yesh

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

opi was a true RP player before jumping into the competitive scene. Shadow Aces crew (deviL, Cthulhu, headbre, I think even RaulPB) as well as fer and zone were born in Ancient World. I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

There were many talented ancient players back in its golden era, being zone and fer those most recognized or famous ones. Besides of those two, Mr. Army, me and Dizabo also steped up to 3v3 competitive play, for example. Others remained in ancient exclusively but started their own ancient clan, which tried to play some ancient cws (rip Praetorian guard ). We basically tried 3v3 Eu+ because it was the only ranked competitive map, but from my perspective, ancient was far more competitive.

Devil and headbre are from a generation older than us, I barely got the chance to play ancient with Devil (rip Devil ). I'm still fucking nostalgic of those op games and players.

PS: a more recent example is domo, such op ancient player...

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

opi was a true RP player before jumping into the competitive scene. Shadow Aces crew (deviL, Cthulhu, headbre, I think even RaulPB) as well as fer and zone were born in Ancient World. I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

There are plenty of examples. You probably didn't knew...

كتب بواسطة Leo, 09.02.2017 at 18:21

I first of all never said RP or Scenario players/maps can't be competitive, it's just that we don't have any good examples of it at the moment, nor we probably will.

Yea?

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كتب بواسطة Guest, 10.02.2017 at 01:58

-snip-

Try not to get triggered, that's not the point. It's still pointless, and you said it yourself. This shit shouldn't even be on general, it's just you complaining cause none is joining your clan?

Is he angry because players dont want to join the empire?

If so, players dont want to join it, not because they see you as a scenario clan, but because the clan is filled with cancer like players.

Improve your clan and people will come, word of the day.

كتب بواسطة Evic, 10.02.2017 at 08:14

Is he angry because players dont want to join the empire?

If so, players dont want to join it, not because they see you as a scenario clan, but because the clan is filled with cancer like players.

Improve your clan and people will come, word of the day.

tell me one of the cancer players exept freedrich (he is cancer player)

Cive, I guess everbody who is active in playing scenarios knows about your uncontrolled and free bursts of hate thrown at us. Believe me, I try hard not to be biased by some players like Commando, who, all know, just "love" you. Now please, justify your cancer player statement and your countless cancer clan statements done in game, name those players and explain your definition of cancer and if you are right I kick them myself in the next second. Explain yourself right now.

Eu+ is favoured because it is the most diverse and yes balanced map we have. The entire community focused upon developing it for 2 years when the default map was all they had and nothing has matched it to this day. No other setting can boast a niche for all the strats or the range of incomes and city densities included.

To quote Vril:

The diversity of regions enriches the game play on the EU+ map.

- High income, High reinforcements, medium/high density (Germany, France, UK, Rus. Central)
- High income, low reinforcements, low/medium density (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland)
- Medium income, low/medium reinforcements, low density (Russia... )
- Medium income, High reinforcements, medium density (Spain, Italy, Ukraine)
- Low/medium income, medium reinforcements, medium/high density (Greece, Poland, Serbia, Romania, Belarus, Austria)
- Low income, high reinforcements, high density (Turkey)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, high density (aka Balkan countries/ former yugoslavia or capital only countries)
- Low income, low/medium reinforcements, periphereal (Iceland, Portugal, Ireland, Azerbajan...)

Sadly most maps dont even come close. Destoria is probably the closest to eu. As a bonus games generally conclude within an hour. I would love to see something similar or better come along but it hasnt happened and is extremely unlikely to.

Also ukraine is not inarguably stronger than turk. That argument can only be made for ds ukraine. Chess is long out of touch with the meta not having played competitively in 2 years. Clovis is as per usual talking nonsense.

كتب بواسطة Guest, 10.02.2017 at 09:06

Cive, I guess everbody who is active in playing scenarios knows about your uncontrolled and free bursts of your hate thrown at us. Believe me, I try hard not to be biased by some players like Commando, who, all know, just "love" you. Now please, justify your cancer player statement and your countless cancer clan statements done in game, name those players and explain your definition of cancer and if you are right I kick them myself in the next second. Explain yourself right now.

Just look at your roster, empirez, siri, novak, naster, himler, swenden, dictator, tessa, eduard, klaus, labienus, autistic warrior, subutay. armyofone etc etc etc
These are the "highranks" you have in the clan, the rest is all lowrank nobodies.
Anyone who has ever came into contact with those players will tell you how cancerous they are, you can ignore that and call me a hater but the fact no serious and decent player has joined you yet proves me right, nobody wants to have anything to do with those players.

كتب بواسطة Evic, 10.02.2017 at 09:57

كتب بواسطة Guest, 10.02.2017 at 09:06

Cive, I guess everbody who is active in playing scenarios knows about your uncontrolled and free bursts of your hate thrown at us. Believe me, I try hard not to be biased by some players like Commando, who, all know, just "love" you. Now please, justify your cancer player statement and your countless cancer clan statements done in game, name those players and explain your definition of cancer and if you are right I kick them myself in the next second. Explain yourself right now.

Just look at your roster, empirez, siri, novak, naster, himler, swenden, dictator, tessa, eduard, klaus, labienus, autistic warrior, subutay. armyofone etc etc etc
These are the "highranks" you have in the clan, the rest is all lowrank nobodies.
Anyone who has ever came into contact with those players will tell you how cancerous they are, you can ignore that and call me a hater but the fact no serious and decent player has joined you yet proves me right, nobody wants to have anything to do with those players.

look here your coaltion failed while the empire still says ur coaltion doesnt cw while empire cws

no need to be jelous because other coaltion doest fail while yours does...also enjoy staying in a dead coaltion

كتب بواسطة Brsjak, 10.02.2017 at 10:13

look here your coaltion failed while the empire still says ur coaltion doesnt cw while empire cws

no need to be jelous because other coaltion doest fail while yours does...also enjoy staying in a dead coaltion

what does that have to do with the topic? if i hated other clans because the one im currently in is not active then i should hate all of the top 10 CWs, but i dont so.....

also, none of the players i listed (except for siri) even played a cw for the empire, it was always freeman and GK, both of whom are decent people.

كتب بواسطة Evic, 10.02.2017 at 10:16

كتب بواسطة Brsjak, 10.02.2017 at 10:13

look here your coaltion failed while the empire still says ur coaltion doesnt cw while empire cws

no need to be jelous because other coaltion doest fail while yours does...also enjoy staying in a dead coaltion

what does that have to do with the topic? if i hated other clans because the one im currently in is not active then i should hate all of the top 10 CWs, but i dont so.....

that doesnt explain shit also pls tell me why do u hate empire so much

Backlash, lab, emp all played cws. You have listed a bunch of players above some of whom are r7(in "high rank" category) and willing to improve and why are they so cancerous? What did they do, offer me facts. And the serious pvp players go to other clans just because there is a higher density of pvp players there, maybe they didnt even heared of the ones listed above as the majority of them play scenarios. They dont behave like filthy bastars or sp police in chats so, give us the facts.

.I.

كتب بواسطة clovis1122, 09.02.2017 at 20:13

I myself was a scenario player before a Eu+ player.

Scenarios were not even a thing when you became an EU+ player. Dont go telling lies now clovis ;3

However, I didn't quite get the fact why you quoted Chess's comment from 18.01.2017, while this thread is made on 09.02.2017? Off-topic much xaxxa