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نشرت بواسطة Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

03.09.2016 - 13:41
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 13:37






That was this turn, after the election where Aqollo and Phoenixking won, and you had to fight mace.
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03.09.2016 - 13:54
كتب بواسطة MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 13:41

كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 13:37






That was this turn, after the election where Aqollo and Phoenixking won, and you had to fight mace.


So Aetius is giving you special treatment and rolling for you twice...

This is what I found in the log, taken 12 hours ago, before your ss, wherever you got it from.

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03.09.2016 - 14:03
==Turn 8: Phase 1 has begun==
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03.09.2016 - 14:10
Ye btw I had to move to a new dice room because that one had some bad settings that I noticed were enabled, pls do not make this into some massive shitstorm thanks
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03.09.2016 - 14:19
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 03.09.2016 at 14:10

Ye btw I had to move to a new dice room because that one had some bad settings that I noticed were enabled, pls do not make this into some massive shitstorm thanks


So its okay to "change rooms" when mrarmy rolls a 13 but when Tirpitz rolls a 13 the turn before it stays?

This is a farce
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03.09.2016 - 14:31
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 14:19

كتب بواسطة Aetius, 03.09.2016 at 14:10

Ye btw I had to move to a new dice room because that one had some bad settings that I noticed were enabled, pls do not make this into some massive shitstorm thanks


So its okay to "change rooms" when mrarmy rolls a 13 but when Tirpitz rolls a 13 the turn before it stays?

This is a farce


To be fair, i checked his room and didn't notice anything strange. The clunky format makes it easy for things like this to go unnoticed.
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03.09.2016 - 14:35
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:52

كتب بواسطة Valetorious, 03.09.2016 at 11:43


Cry when you lose, boast like an ape when you win.


I wouldnt give a shit if I won or lost if I was sent with the correct number of legions.
Quit being a little bitch.


The GM should have made it clear that you can refuse to command an army if you don't have an equal or superior number of total army strength.
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03.09.2016 - 14:37
Commanders are always given the choice to attack or not
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03.09.2016 - 14:40
I don't give a fuck about the right to fight or not, I care about the fact you're rolling twice for your friends and switching rooms because it doesn't suit you.

If you want to switch rooms, give Tirpitz his roll against gauls again first.

What annoys me most about only being given 6 veteran legions is it clearly prevents me gaining my 2nd loyal legion..
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03.09.2016 - 14:41
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 03.09.2016 at 14:37

Commanders are always given the choice to attack or not


You should inflict the disaster to, remember that we don't change rules until next turn ;^)
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03.09.2016 - 14:44
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 14:40

I don't give a fuck about the right to fight or not, I care about the fact you're rolling twice for your friends and switching rooms because it doesn't suit you.

If you want to switch rooms, give Tirpitz his roll against gauls again first.


That room was compromised the moment you started rolling your own shit and if you notice all those were test rolls and there were settings on that were affecting them now quit for all I care you are a horribly annoying human being.
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03.09.2016 - 15:26
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 03.09.2016 at 14:44

كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 14:40

I don't give a fuck about the right to fight or not, I care about the fact you're rolling twice for your friends and switching rooms because it doesn't suit you.

If you want to switch rooms, give Tirpitz his roll against gauls again first.


That room was compromised the moment you started rolling your own shit and if you notice all those were test rolls and there were settings on that were affecting them now quit for all I care you are a horribly annoying human being.


That's a convenient excuse

You rolled the 13 intending for a positive roll to stand, don't try and hide the fact you made a new room after that roll.. 12 fucking hours ago.

Fuck you

Care to explain what these "settings" were?

And care to explain why you didn't notify the other players about the room switch?

You're full of shit

I'm "horribly annoying" because I can see right through you
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03.09.2016 - 16:25
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 16:00



I've said it a billion times and I'll say it again, THE GAME IS ABOUT POLITICS. War is an oppurtunity for Senators to gain influence and popularity. The game is not a co-op Rome conquest. The only veterans thing might aswell have been a political ruse if the Consuls at that time disliked you, and I was afraid someone might've done that to me in the Second Illyrian War. And finally MrArmy is not even in Aetius' faction stop with your conspiracy theory shit. You're just sitting here shouting "jet fuel doesn't melt steam beams" pissing off everyone.
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03.09.2016 - 16:39
كتب بواسطة Zephyrusu, 03.09.2016 at 16:25

كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 16:00



Missing the point


I know the legions thing is part of the game, that's not my gripe... But at the same time "thanks Phoenix for battling Macedonia anyway, you saved the game because without you we would have 4 wars and have lost already".

Yeah no problem Zeph, yw.

I know why Aetius rerolled but he wont admit to it, instead he's making out that I'm the bad guy, when his hosting is simply inconsistent and he's benefitting his friends.

He wanted to save the game, that's why he rolled again.

But making some claim about settings... Not buying it. I persuaded him to use a different app for dice in the last game and even earlier in this one..

He should have treated others the same, its simple Tirpitz is having a shit game as it is and Aetius should have rerolled for him.. But as they aren't friends he didn't.
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03.09.2016 - 16:44
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4 Talent to Rome

Listen people due to -2 rolls on evil omen. Spending on equite is a
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03.09.2016 - 17:44
كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 03.09.2016 at 16:44

4 Talent to Rome

Listen people due to -2 rolls on evil omen. Spending on equite is a
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lol didn't see that
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04.09.2016 - 03:10
I see this game just got shittier after i left...
No offence to atius but its very clear that if you want to host a game like this you shouldnt actually play it yourself....
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04.09.2016 - 04:11
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04.09.2016 - 04:36
Roll on equite
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04.09.2016 - 05:47
Wow you guys are so fucking smart lol
If you got -2 for bad omens how much does that give you fora max equite roll?
Since some of you cant into math ill tell you.....
Max roll is 4
If you spend 1 coin max roll is 5 lol still no equite
If you spend 3 coins you have a 1/6 chance to get it.
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04.09.2016 - 05:54
كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 04.09.2016 at 05:47

Wow you guys are so fucking smart lol
If you got -2 for bad omens how much does that give you fora max equite roll?
Since some of you cant into math ill tell you.....
Max roll is 4
If you spend 1 coin max roll is 5 lol still no equite
If you spend 3 coins you have a 1/6 chance to get it.


No one reads anything on here or even understands this game... and the ones that do will bend the rules to suit themselves.... such a fail
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04.09.2016 - 05:57
كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 04.09.2016 at 05:54

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 04.09.2016 at 05:47

Wow you guys are so fucking smart lol
If you got -2 for bad omens how much does that give you fora max equite roll?
Since some of you cant into math ill tell you.....
Max roll is 4
If you spend 1 coin max roll is 5 lol still no equite
If you spend 3 coins you have a 1/6 chance to get it.


No one reads anything on here or even understands this game... and the ones that do will bend the rules to suit themselves.... such a fail

Thats exactly the reason i left...the game can be amazingly fun but with the rules for gm interpretation and people not even taking the time to read the rules
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04.09.2016 - 07:54
كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 04.09.2016 at 05:57

كتب بواسطة Phoenix, 04.09.2016 at 05:54

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 04.09.2016 at 05:47

Wow you guys are so fucking smart lol
If you got -2 for bad omens how much does that give you fora max equite roll?
Since some of you cant into math ill tell you.....
Max roll is 4
If you spend 1 coin max roll is 5 lol still no equite
If you spend 3 coins you have a 1/6 chance to get it.


No one reads anything on here or even understands this game... and the ones that do will bend the rules to suit themselves.... such a fail

Thats exactly the reason i left...the game can be amazingly fun but with the rules for gm interpretation and people not even taking the time to read the rules

Screw that. GM changed the rules three maybe four times this game, and made up some random respawn card out of nowhere
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04.09.2016 - 11:10
Phoenix, the guy who ruins game experience for everyone with shitting up threads doing far more damage than anything he allegedly claims I do
gow, the dead person who thought he could be dictator without the agreement of his co-consul and without the support of the senate then rage quit
darth, the guy who sees conspiracies everywhere

1 of you is not even part of this game so go away, the other 2 are angry and misinformed so if you don't like it, quit and put actions behind your words like GoW did right now, or accept and keep playing. No more playing and whining the entire time. Meanwhile I am going to update game, ie do something productive while you guys don't.
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04.09.2016 - 11:39
==Turn 8: Phase 2 has begun==
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04.09.2016 - 11:52
 JF.
Consul Vote
2)Felix Cornelius (Godfather ) & Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406)

Censor Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Praetor Vote
2)Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero)

Commands
Replace (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War with?
1) Consul Marco Flavius (Aqollo)]

Who will command the Syrian War?
3)Tiberius Numertorius (JF.)

[Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1. 1 Legion, 4 fleets

Force deployments
1. 8 Legions, Legio V, II, III, XIV and 5 fleets to Macedonia; Legio IV, VI, 4 legions to Syria

Land Commissioner
Felix Cornelius (Godfather )

Tax Farmer 3
Caspiel Rex (Darth.)
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04.09.2016 - 12:01
Consul Vote
1) Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu) & Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Censor Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Praetor Vote
2)Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero)

Pontifex Maximus Vote
The Consuls have left this position empty (can use tribune to claim)

"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Commands
Replace (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War with?
3)Nay

The Consuls have chosen not to appoint a commander of the Second Punic War

Who will command the Syrian War?
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

[Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
2. 1 Legion

Force deployments
1) 8 Legions, Legio V, II, III, XIV and 5 fleets to Macedonia; Legio IV, VI, 4 legions to Syria

Land Commissioner (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)

Felix Cornelius (Godfather ) (backed by Pheonixking929 +12 votes)

Tax Farmer 3 (+2 Talents)

Caspiel Rex (Darth.) (backed by Marco Flavius (Aqollo) +14 votes)
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04.09.2016 - 12:30
Consul Vote
1) Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu) & Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Censor Vote
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Praetor Vote
2)Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero)

Pontifex Maximus Vote
The Consuls have left this position empty (can use tribune to claim)

"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Commands
Replace (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War with?
3)Nay

The Consuls have chosen not to appoint a commander of the Second Punic War

Who will command the Syrian War?
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

[Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
2. 1 Legion

Force deployments
Abstain for now not sure what he means

Land Commissioner (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)

Felix Cornelius (Godfather ) (backed by Pheonixking929 +12 votes)

Tax Farmer 3 (+2 Talents)

Caspiel Rex (Darth.) (backed by Marco Flavius (Aqollo) +14 votes)
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04.09.2016 - 12:33
 Witch-Doctor (مراقب)
Consul Vote
2)Felix Cornelius (Godfather ) & Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406)

Censor Vote
1) Jfreder

Praetor Vote
2)Gaius Antonius Asellio (El Tundero)

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Commands
Replace (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War with?
Nay
Phoenix has shown himself to be a very competent commander and there is no need to replace him.


Who will command the Syrian War?
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

[Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
1) 1 legion 4 fleet

Force deployments
1. 8 Legions, Legio V, II, III, XIV and 5 fleets to Macedonia; Legio IV, VI, 4 legions to Syria

Land Commissioner (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Caspiel Rex (Darth.)


Tax Farmer 3 (+2 Talents)
Caspiel Rex (Darth.) (backed by Marco Flavius (Aqollo) +14 votes)
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04.09.2016 - 13:06
Consul Vote
1) Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu) & Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth.)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Numertorius (JF.)

Praetor Vote
1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)
Isn't Tunder in exile??

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1) Consul Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Commands
Replace (Phoenix) as overall commander of the First Macedonian War with?
Abstain

Who will command the Syrian War?
Abstain


[Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets
3. No new recruitment (save money)

Force deployments
Abstain (been away from the game, not been keeping up with the combat...time to binge read)

As for Concessions, whoever is being backed by Consuls.
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