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نشرت بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 28.05.2016 - 19:29
I suppose it perfectly fits the nature of your clan name that you people have decided for no reason to ban playing cw vs epic clan if I was in the game right?

When I spoke to your members, the reason I got was
"I'm an alt"

I guess me deciding to split my ties with hdrakon and going off with my own account was a bad thing in the eyes of ENIGMA.

Now you can all stop pretending that you all came to this consensus and it wasn't the work of one member.
You can also stop pretending that "I'm an alt" is the only reason you refuse to play epic clan if I'm in the game.

I just want to congratulate you guys on making Clan Wars even more stagnant. You're free to point out whatever you feel Epic Clan might have done too, but it does not excuse the fact that you people are abusing the current clan wars mechanics.

I want to highlight that you are abusing the fact that clan wars are entirely optional (unlike many other games where it is mandatory that you play vs another clan )

It is clear to me that not all of ENIGMA or former ENIGMA members (prom) appreciate such policies. So thanks to those who don't.

Why don't you all get off your high horses and realize your policy of "banning" people from clan wars such as Critical is the reason why you are ranked below Mystics, a dead clan.
29.05.2016 - 16:55
كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:47

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:46

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:43

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:10

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 28.05.2016 at 19:29



btw aqollo/royal if you sent this pr to me or heat or dino im pretty sure we would have understood and agreed to cw you,
the moment you made it ugly and everyone's business that was your mistake...but that ship has sailed.......


Oh you mean like when I talked to you guys about critical? Oh wait...

its not even close to the same circumstances...


Show me the proof that Critical cheated/dced you.
If I remember correctly there were cws mystic had against ENIGMA where the entire mystic team dced at once. If I didn't have any common sense, I would have easily accused you of doing it.

we never said he did. we just said we feel uncomfortable playing with him since there were a few fishy things....and again ifwe feel like we wont enjoy a cw we wont play it its that simple man.....
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29.05.2016 - 17:18
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كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:55

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:47

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:46

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:43

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:10

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 28.05.2016 at 19:29





Oh you mean like when I talked to you guys about critical? Oh wait...


we never said he did. we just said we feel uncomfortable playing with him since there were a few fishy things....and again ifwe feel like we wont enjoy a cw we wont play it its that simple man.....



Is it so hard to say that you are uncomfortable playing with him because he is a good player and actually pose a challenge?
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29.05.2016 - 17:29
كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 17:18

Is it so hard to say that you are uncomfortable playing with him because he is a good player and actually pose a challenge?

If it makes you happy, then yeah, he's too good of a player, unbeatable, god himself.

Can we stop this already? This shoudn't have even started!!
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29.05.2016 - 17:31
كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 17:18

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:55

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:47

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:46

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 29.05.2016 at 16:43

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 16:10

كتب بواسطة Witch-Doctor, 28.05.2016 at 19:29





Oh you mean like when I talked to you guys about critical? Oh wait...


we never said he did. we just said we feel uncomfortable playing with him since there were a few fishy things....and again ifwe feel like we wont enjoy a cw we wont play it its that simple man.....



Is it so hard to say that you are uncomfortable playing with him because he is a good player and actually pose a challenge?

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29.05.2016 - 17:35
كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 15:29

كتب بواسطة Permamuted, 29.05.2016 at 14:40

كتب بواسطة Darth., 29.05.2016 at 13:41


-snip-

listen bud ill make it very clear for you i created a clan to have fun and to cw as well, if i or other members/leaders/officers of our clan do not think we will have fun we wont play a cw.
unlike you, this is not the highlight of our life and it is merely a resort from RL.
you can shout bloody murder all you want but we have never signed a contract with anyone for anything on this game
if we decide to not cw with a guy since we dont like his avatar we just wont.
its as simple as that.
we really dont give a flying fuck about what you or other players think as long as we as a clan have decided so...
you might think i am a problem you can point your finger all you want but i represent all the players in ENIGMA
when i or heat or dino call out the harsh decisions.
true there were players that didnt agree with decisions but they were a minority in enigma.

if you think there are limited cws so instead of joining a fully functioning clan why dont you go out and make your own clan and raise competition.



First of all you should talk more respectfully to Laochra. After all not only you are not even close skill-wise, but you are thousand of miles away in terms of contribution to this game.

Second of all, my conclusion after reading all the pile of shit you and your clanmates spouted, is that ENIGMA ARE FAGGOTS. There is no such thing as "clan rules", there is no such thing as an "alt" if you know the person who owns and is using the account and he is open about it, and there is no such thing as "we will cw whoever we want to for whatever reason we want to and we expect no heat in return".

Nah, you enigma guys are just faggots, might as well admit it. Your arguments are invalid and fallacious and you deserve some public shaming. Shame on you.

And shame on clovis more , for not having the backs of his clanmates when they are right, especially when he acts the contrarian in any other irelevant and trivial issue.
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29.05.2016 - 17:44
كتب بواسطة Khal.eesi, 29.05.2016 at 17:35

Second of all, my conclusion after reading all the pile of shit you and your clanmates spouted, is that ENIGMA ARE FAGGOTS. There is no such thing as "clan rules", there is no such thing as an "alt" if you know the person who owns and is using the account and he is open about it, and there is no such thing as "we will cw whoever we want to for whatever reason we want to and we expect no heat in return".

Nah, you enigma guys are just faggots, might as well admit it. Your arguments are invalid and fallacious and you deserve some public shaming. Shame on you.

And shame on clovis more , for not having the backs of his clanmates when they are right, especially when he acts the contrarian in any other irelevant and trivial issue.

Hi Khaaaaaaaaaaaal! Nice to see you back in forum!

Aw... don't hate on meeee, I missed you! And it may sound as stupid as you want (even faggot, which I know you like), but we play what we feel confortable to play Shame on you for supporting someone bashing on me! And leave Clovis out of this!
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29.05.2016 - 17:48
كتب بواسطة Khal.eesi, 29.05.2016 at 17:35

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 15:29

كتب بواسطة Permamuted, 29.05.2016 at 14:40

كتب بواسطة Darth., 29.05.2016 at 13:41


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listen bud ill make it very clear for you i created a clan to have fun and to cw as well, if i or other members/leaders/officers of our clan do not think we will have fun we wont play a cw.
unlike you, this is not the highlight of our life and it is merely a resort from RL.
you can shout bloody murder all you want but we have never signed a contract with anyone for anything on this game
if we decide to not cw with a guy since we dont like his avatar we just wont.
its as simple as that.
we really dont give a flying fuck about what you or other players think as long as we as a clan have decided so...
you might think i am a problem you can point your finger all you want but i represent all the players in ENIGMA
when i or heat or dino call out the harsh decisions.
true there were players that didnt agree with decisions but they were a minority in enigma.

if you think there are limited cws so instead of joining a fully functioning clan why dont you go out and make your own clan and raise competition.



First of all you should talk more respectfully to Laochra. After all not only you are not even close skill-wise, but you are thousand of miles away in terms of contribution to this game.

Second of all, my conclusion after reading all the pile of shit you and your clanmates spouted, is that ENIGMA ARE FAGGOTS. There is no such thing as "clan rules", there is no such thing as an "alt" if you know the person who owns and is using the account and he is open about it, and there is no such thing as "we will cw whoever we want to for whatever reason we want to and we expect no heat in return".

Nah, you enigma guys are just faggots, might as well admit it. Your arguments are invalid and fallacious and you deserve some public shaming. Shame on you.

And shame on clovis more , for not having the backs of his clanmates when they are right, especially when he acts the contrarian in any other irelevant and trivial issue.

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29.05.2016 - 17:54
كتب بواسطة RaulPB, 29.05.2016 at 17:44

Hi Khaaaaaaaaaaaal! Nice to see you back in forum!

Aw... don't hate on meeee, I missed you! And it may sound as stupid as you want (even faggot, which I know you like), but we play what we feel confortable to play Shame on you for supporting someone bashing on me! And leave Clovis out of this!


Hi baby!

Missed you too and i do love you, but you are full of shit on this one. Freedom of choice does not mean freedom to discriminate without a valid reason. And since its not against the rules, the least you can expect is to call you out on it, publicly offcourse. Its logical and always has been this way. As for clovis he should be here writing blocks of texts and posting pics from dictionaries, what the hell did you do to him while i was away
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29.05.2016 - 18:03
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Unban buffalo soldier first..
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29.05.2016 - 18:03
You have to Crack Enigmas Code before they can explain.
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29.05.2016 - 18:13
كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 15:29

listen bud ill make it very clear for you i created a clan to have fun and to cw as well, if i or other members/leaders/officers of our clan do not think we will have fun we wont play a cw.
unlike you, this is not the highlight of our life and it is merely a resort from RL.
you can shout bloody murder all you want but we have never signed a contract with anyone for anything on this game
if we decide to not cw with a guy since we dont like his avatar we just wont.
its as simple as that.
we really dont give a flying fuck about what you or other players think as long as we as a clan have decided so...
you might think i am a problem you can point your finger all you want but i represent all the players in ENIGMA
when i or heat or dino call out the harsh decisions.
true there were players that didnt agree with decisions but they were a minority in enigma.

if you think there are limited cws so instead of joining a fully functioning clan why dont you go out and make your own clan and raise competition.


You were crystal clear bud but apparently i wasn't. And i am disappointed to see who in your clan upvoted this.

Yea you can do whatever the hell you want but don't be surprised when you get called out on it. I only posted here because i have really taken issue with you guys since you are a part of the whole rank picking problem that plagues this game and makes players leave. in illys twilight years it made it almost impossible for me and acqui to play together except against clans like mk. Players like me and royal etc come to this game to have fun too believe it or not, it is not all about you.

Khals right, shame on you all.

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29.05.2016 - 18:43
كتب بواسطة Khal.eesi, 29.05.2016 at 17:54

كتب بواسطة RaulPB, 29.05.2016 at 17:44

Hi Khaaaaaaaaaaaal! Nice to see you back in forum!

Aw... don't hate on meeee, I missed you! And it may sound as stupid as you want (even faggot, which I know you like), but we play what we feel confortable to play Shame on you for supporting someone bashing on me! And leave Clovis out of this!


Hi baby!

Missed you too and i do love you, but you are full of shit on this one. Freedom of choice does not mean freedom to discriminate without a valid reason. And since its not against the rules, the least you can expect is to call you out on it, publicly offcourse. Its logical and always has been this way. As for clovis he should be here writing blocks of texts and posting pics from dictionaries, what the hell did you do to him while i was away

Aw fuck, pls staph!! Gonna blush!! :$ love you too!

Let's see, we just don't cw alts, we do not discriminate the player itself but his alts. Where's the wrong doing in such thing? I still don't get the big deal about it. He could have simply asked privately or something beforehand. At least try to argue... but he directly comes publicly! How is that going to solve anything? Come on... he just bashed on us

LMAO I didn't do anything, I swear! Maybe I gave him a bit too much love? Idk
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29.05.2016 - 18:43
كتب بواسطة Khal.eesi, 29.05.2016 at 17:35

And shame on clovis more , for not having the backs of his clanmates when they are right,


The end doesn't justify the means.
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29.05.2016 - 18:46
كتب بواسطة Permamuted, 29.05.2016 at 18:13

I only posted here because i have really taken issue with you guys since you are a part of the whole rank picking problem that plagues this game and makes players leave. in illys twilight years it made it almost impossible for me and acqui to play together except against clans like mk. Players like me and royal etc come to this game to have fun too believe it or not, it is not all about you.

But... Lao, pls, tell me how the heck is wrong to not allow alts in cws? I still don't get your point... how is that supposed to be a problem towards low ranks? WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE RANK, we discriminate alts.... Plssssssssssssssssssssssss (((((((((((((((

PS: I feel really helpless right now!
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30.05.2016 - 00:56
كتب بواسطة Permamuted, 29.05.2016 at 18:13

كتب بواسطة 1GodofWar1, 29.05.2016 at 15:29

listen bud ill make it very clear for you i created a clan to have fun and to cw as well, if i or other members/leaders/officers of our clan do not think we will have fun we wont play a cw.
unlike you, this is not the highlight of our life and it is merely a resort from RL.
you can shout bloody murder all you want but we have never signed a contract with anyone for anything on this game
if we decide to not cw with a guy since we dont like his avatar we just wont.
its as simple as that.
we really dont give a flying fuck about what you or other players think as long as we as a clan have decided so...
you might think i am a problem you can point your finger all you want but i represent all the players in ENIGMA
when i or heat or dino call out the harsh decisions.
true there were players that didnt agree with decisions but they were a minority in enigma.

if you think there are limited cws so instead of joining a fully functioning clan why dont you go out and make your own clan and raise competition.


You were crystal clear bud but apparently i wasn't. And i am disappointed to see who in your clan upvoted this.

Yea you can do whatever the hell you want but don't be surprised when you get called out on it. I only posted here because i have really taken issue with you guys since you are a part of the whole rank picking problem that plagues this game and makes players leave. in illys twilight years it made it almost impossible for me and acqui to play together except against clans like mk. Players like me and royal etc come to this game to have fun too believe it or not, it is not all about you.

Khals right, shame on you all.



did we ever tell you you cannot play?
i dont care what enyone here think in my mind a guy thats r-11-12-13 is not on the same skill level as a r-9-10
but did we ever tell you you cant play when you matched our lower ranks as well?
stop speaking out of your ass please.
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30.05.2016 - 01:15
You guys are all noobs anyway. Hehehe. join duel
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30.05.2016 - 01:47
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كتب بواسطة PleaseMe, 30.05.2016 at 01:15

You guys are all noobs anyway. Hehehe. join duel
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don't go off topic
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30.05.2016 - 05:13
Huuuh,
shame on us all because Enigma refused to play a cw where someone is secretly using his alternative account for another coalition. Such a shame, I feel so shameful...
There is a rule in enigma not to ever play a cw with ghosting or alternative accounts against anyone, so we expect from another coalitions to play same honestly against us.
That's it. You can use arguments like known alt account is not actually an alt account, but I am sorry, any other account ruled by same player is an alternative account, known or unknown. Our leaders found out that Aqollo is actually Royal's alt and there was end of the story, with all respect to Royal as player and person.

Please, just please, stop with 'Enigma scared of someone's skills so they refuse to cw'. You are making me laugh. Like Critical and Royal are only ones skilled on this game so we not gonna play them. lol.
I am living proof that we are always open for a cw against any clan and any competitive player, independently of his fucking rank.
As any competitive clan, we have our rules which you have to respect if you gonna cw us, so respect it or no cw. It's so simple thing, no reason for any of those kind of threads or comments against us.
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30.05.2016 - 07:20
I am just dissapointed with clovis who let this through
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30.05.2016 - 09:32
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كتب بواسطة Croat, 30.05.2016 at 05:13

-wall of excuses-


You, guys from ENIGMA, make less sense every time you write a post on this topic. Do you even have an idea what an alt is? He played more time on his Aqollo account than on ROYAL, and his first account was Aqollo, too. I know him from the moment he started playing on ROYAL, and it was very recently.

Now seriously. Stop making useless posts and trying to tell everybody else on AtWar how he's an alt, fooling you all and ruining competitive scene, maybe? Now let's see what do you say. You say having an alt for purpose of ghosting is bad for CWs. Is he ghosting anybody, playing on two accounts in the same CW or something else? Mystics are dead, it's all over after hdrakon was banned. You make no sense by making such idiotic accusations of him being CIA's most secret agent, with mask of a R8 alt? Do you want to see his Aqollo account being R10 to realize how idiotic your accusations are?

Even funnier story is how you don't want to play Critical and even banned him, because "you don't feel comfortable playing him". I don't feel comfortable playing higher rank than me either, but I don't make worse excuses than a 13 years old girl.
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30.05.2016 - 10:06
كتب بواسطة Guest, 30.05.2016 at 09:32

You, guys from ENIGMA, make less sense every time you write a post on this topic. Do you even have an idea what an alt is? He played more time on his Aqollo account than on ROYAL, and his first account was Aqollo, too. I know him from the moment he started playing on ROYAL, and it was very recently.

Now seriously. Stop making useless posts and trying to tell everybody else on AtWar how he's an alt, fooling you all and ruining competitive scene, maybe? Now let's see what do you say. You say having an alt for purpose of ghosting is bad for CWs. Is he ghosting anybody, playing on two accounts in the same CW or something else? Mystics are dead, it's all over after hdrakon was banned. You make no sense by making such idiotic accusations of him being CIA's most secret agent, with mask of a R8 alt? Do you want to see his Aqollo account being R10 to realize how idiotic your accusations are?

Even funnier story is how you don't want to play Critical and even banned him, because "you don't feel comfortable playing him". I don't feel comfortable playing higher rank than me either, but I don't make worse excuses than a 13 years old girl.

Recently? He has been on royal for months. To be more accurate, 288 days, close to a whole year. And looking at his profiles, he has been playing as much time in Aqollo as in Royal (+1k games on both accounts). Check it out for yourself... or haven't you done that yet???

Come on.... we are not ruining anything, we are not fooling anything, etc. He is not a real rank 8 player because he has been gone from his actual account for too damn long. What if we consider it an alt and you don't? You don't have the absolute truth and you must admit he doesnt have the experience of a rank 8, just as other alts don't have the experience of a rank 1. If he were given all the sp he has made this last year on Royal's account, then sure, we wouldn't be able to consider him an alt at all. Now, stop wasting your time arguing about this, you won't gain anything from bashing us.

I don't have anything to say about Critical since I have never played him in cw. Still, by your offensive language, you'll gain nothing except hate... rephrase your accusations in a more respectful way shall you??

Btw, I don't like you generalising so much nor offending me personally.... I haven't done anything wrong.
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30.05.2016 - 10:15
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The question has been answered and everyone has expressed their opinions.

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