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نشرت بواسطة Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

09.10.2016 - 22:32
Roll for equite, rest on rome
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09.10.2016 - 22:32
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09.10.2016 - 22:36
كتب بواسطة MrArmy987, 09.10.2016 at 22:27

Are governors still in their provinces now with the new law?


We will just assume governors stay in their provinces unless they post they say they come back to Rome/ or vote / hold a position like consulship,censor,praetor. I know Pyrrhus is still in Rome while ruling greece with a legate, not sure about the rest.

However I politely suggest Nerva remain in Illyricum.

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10.10.2016 - 01:51
1 on equite,
Rest to rome
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10.10.2016 - 02:30
1 talent on Equite, 3 to Rome
Extort non-Romans in Greece
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10.10.2016 - 06:35
Raise auxiliary fleets in Africa
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10.10.2016 - 12:27
==Turn 26: Phase 2 has begun==
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10.10.2016 - 12:30
I shall vote 1 to all proposals except the trial of Antonius,2, gladiatorial games could be amusing.

pavle vote:
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10.10.2016 - 12:38
1 for all except for the Antonius' trial which i will vote 2 for
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10.10.2016 - 12:44
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 10.10.2016 at 12:30

I shall vote 1 to all proposals except the trial of Antonius,2, gladiatorial games could be amusing.

pavle vote:
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10.10.2016 - 12:48
Vote 1 to all except the Governorship of Greece thing which I abstain, and the sentencing of Tunder which I vote 2. I'd love to see Tunder fight off the lions in the colosseum with his bare hands
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10.10.2016 - 13:02
 Witch-Doctor (مراقب)
2) consul

1) to rest

Tunder
2) gladiatorial game
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10.10.2016 - 13:03
كتب بواسطة Aetius, 10.10.2016 at 12:30

I shall vote 1 to all proposals except the trial of Antonius,2, gladiatorial games could be amusing.

pavle vote:
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Plz have mercy, spare your old pal from an undeserved death
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10.10.2016 - 13:08
Lol looks like everyone is going to use Tunder for some evening entertainment

كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 13:03

Plz have mercy, spare your old pal from an undeserved death

Pyrrhus offered you it (for some reason). You refused. Also you'd just repay us with an assassination attempt like you did with Aqollo
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10.10.2016 - 13:41
Fellow romans, please have mercy for this broken and disgraced man, for I may not be innocent of the crime but absolved of the intention of murder I already was. As a roman, senator and veteran of war; I beg you to reconsider the punishment that I am to have, just another brother in misfortune I was during our bloody civil war. The former senate, as villainous as it was - ruled by former Postatem members who made decisions out of ambition, lust and greed for darkness in their heart they had. - decided to pardon me and hold me hostage to fight fellow romans and only my suicide could have saved me from that.




Why should little men as virtuous as they are, be punish by the deeds of the master who runs the machinery of the state from behind? My fellow romans, you know very well that I was never a partisan before the war. As a neutral member of the senate I voted only with the interests of Rome at heart, which is why I voted for most if not all of the reforms that Populares put at hand. When I tried to stab Aqollo it was because Postatems had promised gold and that Rome would burn if I did not follow with their mission to deprive Aqollo of his mortal form.



When the civil war started, I took governorship at Hispania as a self-imposed form of exile. I never was formally recalled which is why I never went back to the senate, also in part I didn't wanted to be hold accountable for my unholy alliance and temporal cooperation with the evil optimate's senate. Optimates gave me no choice for they were incompetent and greedy, ambitious and evil, bloodthirsty and cruel. Have mercy upon your poor disgraced brother, and as liberators and saviors of Rome pardon he who only did wrong in order to save Rome from a civil war that would end up spilling a lot of blood.
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10.10.2016 - 13:41
2 for Consul, 1 for rest of position voting

2 for recalling pYrrhus,

1 for new govenror of Spains

2. For War effort

As for Tunder, I say Gladiator games or I'll build a prison in Asia to hold him and the rest of the rebel leaders to rot away in.
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10.10.2016 - 14:00
كتب بواسطة Pheonixking929, 10.10.2016 at 13:41

As for Tunder, I say Gladiator games or I'll build a prison in Asia to hold him and the rest of the rebel leaders to rot away in.


When we where young, we played togheter in the banks of the tiber river. Now you forsake me in times of need.
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10.10.2016 - 14:02
كتب بواسطة Need Mental Help, 10.10.2016 at 12:44



Out grandfathers banquished the phoenicians togheter, those were simpler times.
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10.10.2016 - 14:23
كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 13:41

you know very well that I was never a partisan before the war.

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10.10.2016 - 14:27
كتب بواسطة Zephyrusu, 10.10.2016 at 14:23

كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 13:41

you know very well that I was never a partisan before the war.

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If anything i was an independent that was populare lenient. You in the other hand are extending the war by not surrendering. There is no glory to be had by killing other romans.
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10.10.2016 - 14:38
كتب بواسطة Darth., 10.10.2016 at 13:08

Pyrrhus offered you it (for some reason). You refused. Also you'd just repay us with an assassination attempt like you did with Aqollo


I made a mistake and I repent, i should never have followed the lies that Postatem were feeding to my ears. I was afraid that the republic would give away to a kingdom and that provinces would be turned into fiefdoms. I was wrong, populares would never partition the republic to themselves, optimates and postatem are the true enemies of Rome; i was just deceived into doing harm to my fellow countrymen under the illusion that the assasination would help to save the republic.

You have nothing to be afraid of, a mere private citizen can do no harm to a magnificent and all mighty consul who is popular with the people. If the senate is kind, fair and forgiving just like how the trio of liberators are: then i stand a good chance to retire to a farm and leave the matters of the state to those who are more wise than myself such as you, marius and sertorious. If i am wrong, i only wish i had fallen in spain and receive a proper burial like i would have done to marius if he had fallen in my place.
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10.10.2016 - 14:40
كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 14:27

If anything i was an independent that was populare lenient. You in the other hand are extending the war by not surrendering. There is no glory to be had by killing other romans.

You led a fucking rebellion.
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10.10.2016 - 14:43
كتب بواسطة Zephyrusu, 10.10.2016 at 14:40

كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 14:27

If anything i was an independent that was populare lenient. You in the other hand are extending the war by not surrendering. There is no glory to be had by killing other romans.

You led a fucking rebellion.


That was my father, which was decapitated without a fair trial, by the savages that begot you. Yet you speak about rebellions when you are leading one against rome yourself.
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10.10.2016 - 14:47
كتب بواسطة Zephyrusu, 10.10.2016 at 14:23




Hey, thanks for the horizontal scroll bar
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10.10.2016 - 14:48
كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 14:43

That was my father, which was decapitated without a fair trial, by the savages that begot you. Yet you speak about rebellions when you are leading one against rome yourself.

I never pretended I didn't, however.

كتب بواسطة MrArmy987, 10.10.2016 at 14:47

Hey, thanks for the horizontal scroll bar

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10.10.2016 - 14:57
كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 14:38

كتب بواسطة Darth., 10.10.2016 at 13:08

Pyrrhus offered you it (for some reason). You refused. Also you'd just repay us with an assassination attempt like you did with Aqollo


I made a mistake and I repent, i should never have followed the lies that Postatem were feeding to my ears. I was afraid that the republic would give away to a kingdom and that provinces would be turned into fiefdoms. I was wrong, populares would never partition the republic to themselves, optimates and postatem are the true enemies of Rome; i was just deceived into doing harm to my fellow countrymen under the illusion that the assasination would help to save the republic.

You have nothing to be afraid of, a mere private citizen can do no harm to a magnificent and all mighty consul who is popular with the people. If the senate is kind, fair and forgiving just like how the trio of liberators are: then i stand a good chance to retire to a farm and leave the matters of the state to those who are more wise than myself such as you, marius and sertorious. If i am wrong, i only wish i had fallen in spain and receive a proper burial like i would have done to marius if he had fallen in my place.

You've been so anti-Populares, but the second you're faced with death you change your tune, instead of dying for what you believe in, straight-backed and proud like a true Roman should. Like Meester did. Traitor he was, but he faced his death with honour.
You called us power-hungry dogs and now you call us liberators
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10.10.2016 - 15:09
كتب بواسطة Darth., 10.10.2016 at 14:57

كتب بواسطة Tundy, 10.10.2016 at 14:38

كتب بواسطة Darth., 10.10.2016 at 13:08

Pyrrhus offered you it (for some reason). You refused. Also you'd just repay us with an assassination attempt like you did with Aqollo


I made a mistake and I repent, i should never have followed the lies that Postatem were feeding to my ears. I was afraid that the republic would give away to a kingdom and that provinces would be turned into fiefdoms. I was wrong, populares would never partition the republic to themselves, optimates and postatem are the true enemies of Rome; i was just deceived into doing harm to my fellow countrymen under the illusion that the assasination would help to save the republic.

You have nothing to be afraid of, a mere private citizen can do no harm to a magnificent and all mighty consul who is popular with the people. If the senate is kind, fair and forgiving just like how the trio of liberators are: then i stand a good chance to retire to a farm and leave the matters of the state to those who are more wise than myself such as you, marius and sertorious. If i am wrong, i only wish i had fallen in spain and receive a proper burial like i would have done to marius if he had fallen in my place.

You've been so anti-Populares, but the second you're faced with death you change your tune, instead of dying for what you believe in, straight-backed and proud like a true Roman should. Like Meester did. Traitor he was, but he faced his death with honour.
You called us power-hungry dogs and now you call us liberators


Would you do me the honor of speaking in my behalf? It is difficult for a man in distress to defend himself.

I would glady pay your speaking fees
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10.10.2016 - 15:11
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كتب بواسطة Zephyrusu, 10.10.2016 at 14:23




Hey, thanks for the horizontal scroll bar

I was wondering where it came from
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10.10.2016 - 16:26
I use my tribune to block voting on recalling Pyrrhus from Greece.
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10.10.2016 - 17:54
I have overhelming evidence in my private correspondence to prove that there is a triumvir conspiring to destroy the triumvirate and make it a dualvirate
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